Rafale C for FS2004

[SOLOBO]

I didn't realise, or had forgotten, that his surname was Bloch, and was responsible for 15 years of Bloch French aircraft in the '30's and 40's ...

That's right... From 1928 to 1940...

... Greetings to New-Zealand...

[Isra]

Off topic..
I got also a nice Perfume, but my Wife does not like it at all !

[fsafranek]

This may be old news but I saw an english version of the FM for the Rafale over at the VPA website.

Yea, that's so 2011. Sorry had to say it.
:ernae:

[Blackbird686]

Well... . LOL!!

BB686:USA-flag:

[fsafranek]

Well... . LOL!!

BB686:USA-flag:

Actually BB686, they just posted new versions of the French and English language manuals today. In addition to the Dassault Aviation logo that they are now required to prominently display, it includes discussion of the latest features. So good spotting there. :salute:
:ernae:

[VaporZ]

By the way,

to follow day to day news abour the real Rafale C/B and Marine take a look here
on a daily basis :

http://rafalenews.blogspot.com/

Enjoy !
:mixedsmi:
VaporZ

[Motormouse]

Off topic..
I got also a nice Perfume, but my Wife does not like it at all !

! LOL Isra, I get 'eau de kerosine' at work too...
anyways how's your improvements to the Mirage V coming along?

ttfn

Pete

[VaporZ]

Here is the "quite realistic" start up procedure video for the VPA Rafale for FS9.

in english :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taXup...layer_embedded

in french :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTQ3U...layer_embedded

Warning :
There will be no automatic "already started / ready to take off" option with this Rafale for FS9.
Cold start option only !
:mixedsmi:
VaporZ

[SOLOBO]

VaporZ, watched, thank's for the link... Stunning...!

[fsafranek]

Warning :
There will be no automatic "already started / ready to take off" option with this Rafale for FS9.
Cold start option only !
:mixedsmi:
VaporZ

I guess I've been privy to a lot information about this project that hasn't been put out in other forums just to be reposted here. So let me just say that based on an email from VPA the above "warning" statement is untrue.

By default the VPA Rafale will come with ”cold start” gauges. But a set of different gauges have been coded and a "quick start" panel.cfg file will be available in a separate folder of the aircraft. It will be a simple process of deciding which you prefer and make one or the other your personal default panel.

Time to relax. Enjoy the weekend.
:ernae:

[VaporZ]

Thanks for this info Frank !

Philippe of VPA Rafale Team also ask me to put this info on SOH Forum but you did it before me.

Too busy on Biathlon !

As I will be very very busy for the rest of the winter as a Biathlon Team "Wax Tech / Logistic & Weapon Specialist"
from now on I will let Frank relay any new info from VPA Rafale Team on this tread.

Here is below one of the athlete I serve as a Wax Tech / Logistic & Weapon.
:mixedsmi:
VaporZ

[Blackbird686]

I like the idea of a "cold start" from the ramp. Every now and then I jump into Bookmark Flightsim's Saab Draken.... it's a cold start model and it took me for ever to get the routine down. Now it's second nature.

BB686:USA-flag:

[Navtech]

Methink the cold start procedure will be not a problem for anyone who want fly this new Rafale
They have (or will) all the time to read and reread the manual already available (and even a video) before they can eventually begin to install the Rafale

From their forum

Posté le: Ven 17 Fév - 19:33 Sujet du message: On se prépare au téléchargement... Répondre en citant
Bonjour,
Non toujours pas, et trop peu d'éléments pour faire un quelconque pronostic.
1 On ne sait pas combien de temps va prendre l'approbation de Dassault pour l'avion.
2 Le récent changement de texture du panel 3D pour diminuer les fps demande un travail colossal pour refaire toutes les pages MFD qui étaient finies.
On vous en dit plus dès qu'on en sait plus, là on a rien.

IPosté on: Fri, February 17 - 19:33 Post subject: Getting ready for download ... Reply with quote
Hello,
Not yet, and too little evidence to make any assumptions.
1 It is not known how long it will take for the approval of the Dassault aircraft.
2 The recent change in texture of the 3D panel to reduce fps requires a tremendous amount of work to go through all MFD pages were finished.
It tells you more as soon as we know more, now we know nothing.

[patful]

I'm starting to worry about frame rates after watching that video and reading the last quote there. It looks like a fantastic project, but I'm used to a steady 48fps with clear skies. Fingers crossed...

[Wing_Z]

...after watching that video...

Aargh! Jaggy VC cockpit frame! Gents the frame is right there in your face, it's what you see all the time, this is 2012... AARGH!
All that effort to make an authentic experience, and the frame looks like it came from FS98 AAARRGH!

[Blackbird686]

Well... I think I remember reading at one point that there would be a "light cockpit model" that would be easier on framerates. Maybe that was it, but I really don't know at this point. I thought I saw an updated English version of the flight manual the other day... but turns out I was wrong about that. I did notice that in the video, the narrator was zipping the views in the VC back and forth without any noticeable frame rate hit. Since most of my VFR and all of my IFR flights are done from the 2D cockpit, I don't find any issue with the VC. I like to spend alot of time in the spot view during my flights, panning around the visual model anyway. When she's finally released, I'll fly her. Just my 2 bits.

BB686:USA-flag:

[fsafranek]

Well... I think I remember reading at one point that there would be a "light cockpit model" that would be easier on framerates. Maybe that was it, but I really don't know at this point. I thought I saw an updated English version of the flight manual the other day... but turns out I was wrong about that. I did notice that in the video, the narrator was zipping the views in the VC back and forth without any noticeable frame rate hit. Since most of my VFR and all of my IFR flights are done from the 2D cockpit, I don't find any issue with the VC. I like to spend alot of time in the spot view during my flights, panning around the visual model anyway. When she's finally released, I'll fly her. Just my 2 bits.

BB686:USA-flag:

There was a new manual uploaded the day after your post. You can tell you are looking at the latest by the Dassault Aviation logo on the first page. Adding logos is one of the requirements for them to release.
:ernae:

[VaporZ]

Any news about this very promising "Rafale Family" project from France ?

VaporZ

[Navtech]

From the forum !

Hello,

C'est plutôt à Alex de répondre, lui qui gère entièrement les discussions D.A/nous.

Si j'ai bien compris Dassault nous autorise à utiliser le nom Rafale, le nom Dassault Aviation et leur logo et ce, à titre gracieux, sans rémunération, une sorte de licence.

Ils ont quand même un droit de regard sur les produits diffusés ou qui le seraient (2000, Falcon par ex) sous couvert de cette licence, et c'est cette approbation technique sur le produit que nous attendons et non plus l'autorisation, disons, juridique.

Le produit représente en quelque sorte la marque, même s'ils ne comptent pas sur nous pour en vendre, il faut qu'il soit proche de la réalité dans la limite que permet FS9 aussi.

Hello,

Rather it is to meet Alex, who manages the discussions entirely DA / us.

If I understand Dassault allows us to use the name Rafale, Dassault Aviation's name and logo, which, without charge, without compensation, a kind of license.

They do have a say about the products distributed or would be (2000, eg Falcon) under cover of this license, and it is this technical approval of the product that we expect and not leave, say , legal.

The product is somehow the mark, even if they do not count on us to sell, it must be realistic within the limits allowed by FS9 too.

Go figure ....

Currently .. there are Dassault employees who install FS2004 on their PC ... learn to use FS2004 ... and when they will use it properly (it is going to take months ...) they will test the Rafale .. with their test pilots ....
So ... it's not tomorrow that this "freeware" will be available for download .. and he must still receive the approval of test pilots ...
It was in doing anything that you become anyone

[fsafranek]

You know the real drag there is that there have been no FS developers outside of France who have made a Rafale. So they are all within the reach of DA. The payware FSX version by Roland Laborie has been off market since last October. Even the FSX freeware Rafale M by Thor's Hammer is not longer available for exclusive download at the VFAF site. But we do have the old but continually revised version from Gator.

Actually let me correct my earlier statement. There is a flyable Rafale in the MAIW Rafale package. Needs a panel and such but might be a starting point for someone. Plenty of textures already made for it.

Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?
:ernae:

[Wing_Z]

...Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?

Quite possibly... but I can patiently wait for this one.
It's not every day that you get a freeware Gen 4.5 jet that is approved by the manufacturer, after flight testing by its test pilots!

[Navtech]

Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?

DA must first check the FS2004 "freeware Rafale"
When all tests performed ... they will return on their business with India
Each his priorities ....

[fsafranek]

DA must first check the FS2004 "freeware Rafale"
When all tests performed ... they will return on their business with India
Each his priorities ....

I do hope the pilots aren't confused when they go back to the real world after FS.
The VPA Rafale is pretty system-deep so I'm sure they will appreciate the work
that has gone into it. Hopefully their feedback will make it even better.
:ernae:

[Blackbird686]

You know the real drag there is that there have been no FS developers outside of France who have made a Rafale. So they are all within the reach of DA. The payware FSX version by Roland Laborie has been off market since last October. Even the FSX freeware Rafale M by Thor's Hammer is not longer available for exclusive download at the VFAF site. But we do have the old but continually revised version from Gator.

Actually let me correct my earlier statement. There is a flyable Rafale in the MAIW Rafale package. Needs a panel and such but might be a starting point for someone. Plenty of textures already made for it.

Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?
:ernae:

Gator's Rafale is still an excellent flyer for FS9 and with all the mods and updates out there for it -- as far as I'm concerned, it's going to be around for a long time to come. Lots of repaints for it too, and I did a nav-light mod for the Rafale a while back, just changed the looks of the lights a bit. I think it enhances the appearance of the jet alot, especially the black "Rafale C" variant. It's available over at Mirage for Flight Simulator. There are also numerous afterburner effects for this little gem.

As far as the VPA Rafale... we could be in for a long wait before it's released... if at all. I really can't fathom any reasons why Dassault is putting so much emphasis on a freeware model. Now if this were a payware model, and VPA stood to make a considerable amount of cash from it's sale.. that would be different, (maybe). I think that Dassault should pay the VPA Group a royalty, just for letting their test pilots put their hands on the "freeware" VPA Rafale. :isadizzy:LOL!

BB686:USA-flag:

[VaporZ]

A first in France. First female officer pilot on Rafale.
Capitaine Merouze.

http://rafalenews.blogspot.com/2012/...le-rafale.html

A few years ago then "Lieutnant" Merouze was on basic training on Grob at Cognac Air Base
and was selected for fighter training on Alphajet at the Tours Air base "École de Chasse".

You will recognise officer Merouze here on this six episodes french TV report called
"Femmes Pilotes de Chasse" ( Women Fighter Pilots ) available here :

1.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

2.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

3.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

4.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

5.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

6.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech


Capitaine Merouze reach now her ultimate dream : Rafale pilot !
Bravo ! Well Done !

VaporZ