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    Rafale C for FS2004

    The well known Rafale by Gator was released back in December 2002 and while it has been successfully ported into FS2004 there has never been a publically available Rafale built specifically for FS2004. That will change very shortly with the release of a new Rafale C from Vincent Hellegouarch, Philippe Devallez, and Alexandre Baffert (Rafale VPA). The aircraft will feature four external configurations, four texture sets, and a complete and very clickable virtual cockpit and 2D instrument panel. Please visit this preview page for more information and images.

    http://www.mirage4fs.com/preview28.html

    You can also visit their website/forum to register and download the POH (still in French language but it shows the depth of the systems).
    :ernae:

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    Cyril's model was fabulous, but of course not up to today's level of detail internally.
    I never would have dared to dream...
    FS2004 lives!

    Thanks for the heads up Frank, this will be one to watch, with enormous anticipation.

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    Thats great news Frank! Looking forward to it!

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    Thanks for the news, I'm looking forward to trying out the aircraft when it becomes available. I registered at their forum.

    T.

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    No that's very welcome!!!

    Thanks for the HU

    John
    Never give up, never surrender.

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    Very VERY welcome news! The Abacus Rafale is sadly lacking. Can't wait for the M variant.

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    YES!!! a new Rafale for FS9! Very good news, looking forward to it.

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    Great news Franck, many thank's for info !!

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    It is their first effort (not obvious when you see it) and they are a little apprehensive about releasing it into the wild but it is a worthy effort. There is a lot of depth in the cockpit which is always welcome. Once they do all three versions a paint kit will be very welcome as there are a lot of optional schemes out there, especially on the two-seaters used for demonstrations at airshows. Just getting her started is a bit complex but when you follow the instructions it all makes sense and adds a lot of realism. And being freeware there is plenty of room for enhancements/modifications from the flightsim community. And SOH is always a great place for that to stem from.
    :ernae:

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    Sounds like a very nice project!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsafranek View Post
    It is their first effort (not obvious when you see it) and they are a little apprehensive about releasing it into the wild but it is a worthy effort. There is a lot of depth in the cockpit which is always welcome. Once they do all three versions a paint kit will be very welcome as there are a lot of optional schemes out there, especially on the two-seaters used for demonstrations at airshows. Just getting her started is a bit complex but when you follow the instructions it all makes sense and adds a lot of realism. And being freeware there is plenty of room for enhancements/modifications from the flightsim community. And SOH is always a great place for that to stem from.
    :ernae:
    For a "first effort", I am very impressed with what I see. I wish I was that good.

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    I wanted to keep this one current, and to let the "devs" know that there is some interest here, in their Rafale project. Not that any of them reside here at SOH....

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    Release postponed ... cause legal matter ... ??

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    An English version of the POH is now available if anyone wants to study up before release. It is available on their website in the download section (Les téléchargements). I was able to read it earlier today and gave a couple suggestions to make sure I understood some things. It really is a quite complex (I originally wrote "complete" but that is true as well) aircraft in the amount of information provided.

    http://rafalevpa.xooit.fr/index.php

    :ernae:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navtech View Post
    Release postponed ... cause legal matter ... ??
    Yes and No. Due to what happened with Roland Laborie's Rafale for FSX and how he was ordered by Dassault to take it off market, these guys have written to Dassault to make sure that it is ok for them to release their freeware version. I would say that when you live in the same country as the huge corporation that has the power take legal action against you, you might take it a little bit more seriously than if you live a few thousand miles (and an ocean) away.

    Roland used the company name "Dassault" in the title of his payware product. In hindsight, simply calling it a "Rafale" would probably have been a better marketing decision. So you learn from other's mistakes. Otherwise it is ready to go.

    :ernae:

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    Yes and No. Due to what happened with Roland Laborie's Rafale for FSX and how he was ordered by Dassault to take it off market, these guys have written to Dassault to make sure that it is ok for them to release their freeware version
    So it's half and half ...
    Quite funny from Dassault
    The old Dassault should be jealous because his plane is unable to be sold .. but have success in the virtual world of simulation
    At least .. we have the tutorial .. (secret défense ? .. lol)
    Vive la Françe .. ROFL

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    Man, can't wait to fly these Rafale variants ! Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navtech View Post
    Quite funny from Dassault
    The old Dassault should be jealous because his plane is unable to be sold .. but have success in the virtual world of simulation
    At least .. we have the tutorial .. (secret défense ? .. lol)
    Vive la Françe .. ROFL
    Well... hopefully we'll be able to fly her, but if not (and I really don't see any reason why, but if not...) so be it. I've had Cyril's Rafale all along. Thanks for the update... downloading the manual now.:salute:

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    I'm sure it will get released but as they say, "it is easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission".
    Once you've asked your hands are tied.
    :ernae:

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    Take a look on these 3 x videos from the VPA's french forum here :

    http://rafalevpa.xooit.fr/t29-le-bou...?start=15#p135

    Wow !
    It is also mentionned a portover version for FSX will be available later !
    :ernae:
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    Hmmm .. smell no good ....

    From the forum
    .....bien....je pense que je vais monter un peu plus fort aux créneaux puisque les dernières nouvelles sont :
    "nous on vous autorise a reproduire payware ou freeware mais on réclame une redevance".......
    je pense que je vais leur demander leur avis sur les millions de "reproductions" tous support de leurs produits sans accords de licence, et qui par ailleurs ne sont pas "controlable"....je croit avoir ete gentil en leur proposant une action commerciale gratuite et en plus complétement "vérifiable".
    cela risque de changer.
    j'attend la question "combien?" de votre part : je dirais assez pour s'endetter pendant un moment mais avec des droits de commercialisation mondiaux.
    il reste à savoir si le jeu en vaut la chandelle.
    la suite dans la semaine.
    Google translator ..............................

    ..... well .... I think I'll get a little harder to slots since the last news:
    "We authorize you to reproduce it payware or freeware but requires a fee ".......
    I think I'll ask them their opinion on the millions of "reproductions" support all of their products without licensing agreements, and also are not "controllable ".... I believe they have been offering them a nice action free trade and more fully "verifiable".
    this may change.
    I await the question "how?" from you: I would say enough to go into debt for a while but with global marketing rights.
    It remains to be seen if the game is worth it.
    later in the week.
    Dassault want royalties from a freeware !
    Everybody know that's the economic crisis in France .. but it seems that Dassault is really more concerned than others .. LOL
    The best solution is that this "Rafale team" migrate to China ... hehe

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    Don't ask.... I wouldn't be able to give a sensable answer to that one.

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    Ridiculous, does Dassault produce any consumer goods that can be boycotted?
    Matt

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    I seem to recall Gulfstream have made similar demands, which is why there are so few models of their planes available.

    As Navtech said, the irony is they can't sell the real thing; maybe they are trying to recoup the development costs via flight simmers?
    Andy

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