Introducing the Avia 51

**Matt Wynn** · April 8th, 2012, 19:21

can i get a techie out ASAP... think i've got half a tree caught up in the access points.... no it wasn't my fault.... it was the local airfields for not cutting the trees back enough.... needless to say i've now cleared a gap in them for you all :salute: the things i do to help the team....

now.... where's my glass of 12? and Nigel get my μπρίκι out.... it's gonna be a long day and i need my Coffee.... maybe i should build a fictional strip somewhere in Europe for these Avias to fly to from Cheb... if i do.... don't expect an easy landing site, or navaids, or pre-defined runway....

**nigel richards** · April 8th, 2012, 22:05

Originally Posted by Blackbird686

I couldn't help but notice in those photos... you had Milton's Avia 57 parked next to the fence. Me wonders if he knows you have it. I recognise those big tires, and that clean three engine airframe design in a minute. You best hurry along and get that plane back into the hangar, mate. Especially before Matt sees it sitting there. You'll wake up the next morning with buckets of aeroplane paint at the doorstep... and the cash on delivery bill to boot.

By the way Nigel... thank you for your excellent painting on the '51' Amphibian... the New Zealanders thank you too!

BB686:USA-flag:

Lol.
Sharp observation there BB-686.
Don't worry, Milton cleared me for the '57 a few days ago - someones got to run those radials in.

Matt? ...well maybe he'll take the bait, I'd love to see some of his creative magic on a Dreamship such as this.

New Zealanders? Bugger!...dive for cover!

Originally Posted by Matt Wynn

can i get a techie out ASAP... think i've got half a tree caught up in the access points.... no it wasn't my fault.... it was the local airfields for not cutting the trees back enough.... needless to say i've now cleared a gap in them for you all :salute: the things i do to help the team....

now.... where's my glass of 12? and Nigel get my μπρίκι out.... it's gonna be a long day and i need my Coffee.... maybe i should build a fictional strip somewhere in Europe for these Avias to fly to from Cheb... if i do.... don't expect an easy landing site, or navaids, or pre-defined runway....

Matt wants his 'μπρίκι' (it's a purpose built, mini coffee pot used for making Greek coffee).
That means he's up to something and means business!

Sounds like a good plan you have there - now Cheb is actually two airports (much to my 'amusement' in finding out, a couple of days ago) ; pre-1939 and 1940 - present day. There's plenty of room for teamwork if you're interested in doing some bulldozing/building/creating.

Are you gonna make me an offer I can't refuse Tiger?

**Matt Wynn** · April 8th, 2012, 22:11

Originally Posted by nigel richards

Matt? ...well maybe he'll take the bait, I'd love to see some of his creative magic on a Dreamship such as this.

New Zealanders? Bugger!...dive for cover!

i can sling the paint off it when the time comes, i always make room in the hangar for Miltons stuff....

Kiwi's? bugger i'm hiding!

**Blackbird686** · April 9th, 2012, 01:32

Originally Posted by Matt Wynn

Kiwi's? bugger i'm hiding!

Yeah... they overfish their limits too!

lol!

BB686:USA-flag:

**nigel richards** · April 9th, 2012, 02:17

(icon; a frappe in a Guinness jar:icon)

BB-686, Matt; you pair of scoundrels better pipe-down and keep your heads low - I can think of at least two Kiwis who'll be around here, clipping the daisies with their new toys before long...

... one of them will be making a vid to record the occaison!

...and a couple of Greeks to clear up the stalks left behind...

**PeteHam** · April 10th, 2012, 00:54

My thanks to all who have helped bring the Avia 51 to life.

I'm just lovin' this classic and I only wish I could have flown one for real.

Thanks to to Nigel for giving the old girl a personal touch for the company

http://www.vanisleva.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12708

Pete.

**JoHubb** · April 10th, 2012, 01:09

Originally Posted by PeteHam

Thanks to to Nigel for giving the old girl a personal touch for the company

http://www.vanisleva.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12708

Pete.

Boy oh Boy! How gorgeous is that? Great work. Is it available for just any old Joe, like me?

John

**nigel richards** · April 10th, 2012, 02:14

Originally Posted by PeteHam

My thanks to all who have helped bring the Avia 51 to life.
I'm just lovin' this classic and I only wish I could have flown one for real.
Thanks to to Nigel for giving the old girl a personal touch for the company
http://www.vanisleva.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12708
Pete.

Pete; Those pics are nothing short of AWESOME!!!
Beautiful, atmospheric shots,
Exceptional, well groomed and finely tuned sim,

...and an amazing classic aicraft at the hands of a REAL aviation expert!
You just made every step of the way worthwhile Sir!

Originally Posted by JoHubb

Boy oh Boy! How gorgeous is that? Great work. Is it available for just any old Joe, like me?
John

John; don't just sit there...grab one for yourself, and have the time of your life Sir.

And bye-the-way, This and the other Avia project aicraft are freely available here 'on the House" in the SOH downloads section,
and yes!, it was purposely created precisely for discerning Gentlemen such as yourself.

Happy Landings

ps: You might consider donating some pics of your flying, for all of us to enjoy.

**JoHubb** · April 10th, 2012, 05:01

Originally Posted by nigel richards

ps: You might consider donating some pics of your flying, for all of us to enjoy.

Nigel, no sooner said......

Boarded EPZG VFR to Lodz, Poland

Ready for startup

En route to Lodz (EPLL)

Arriving at Lodz

**nigel richards** · April 10th, 2012, 05:34

Originally Posted by JoHubb

Nigel, no sooner said......

Boarded EPZG VFR to Lodz, Poland

Ready for startup

En route to Lodz (EPLL)

Arriving at Lodz

O man! Those pics are a joy to behold Sir.

Where have you been hiding all this time John?

The scenery and textures in the second pic 'Ready for startup' are particularly notworthy. May I ask what scenery that is, and what seasonal textures you're using?

**JoHubb** · April 10th, 2012, 07:18

Aw shucks, Nigel, as they say across the pond. Glad you liked but they don't hold a candle to the Seaplane set. That really was something. I never saw better FS screenshots.

The sceneries are from Polish Airports vol 2 from Drzewiecki Design - http://www.drzewiecki-design.net. Their EPKK (Krakow) scenery is astonishing but must be bought separately. Most of the sceneries are available for FS2004 and FSX. I have most of the FS2004 ones and they are without exception, superb. They provide plenty of additional information about the airfields, charts etc. No conflict of interest, BTW.

Re Seasonal textures. I've lost track a bit with what sceneries are running on my server PC and client (Wide FS) that half time I don't know what's active and what isn't. For the startup and Lodz pics I think the textures are in the addon sceneries, for the other pics I have GE Pro spring. It was winter at both ends of the journey but spring in between......

GE Pro is an old program now and not designed for W7. It causes me much grief so that I'm for ever deactivating bits of it, and then reactivating. I never learn.

**nigel richards** · April 10th, 2012, 11:21

Lol.
Seriously John, its always a great pleasure and fascination to see how others tweak their sims.

I have 6 different installations of fs2004 for various purposes, one is straight from the box, the others, a motley assortment of fiddling and tweaking - quite lost track of exactly what I have, as you also mention.

Well, if you enjoyed the other Avias, the good news is that the best is yet to come;

The Avia 57 is an incredible piece of machinery, a very refined aircraft marking the pinnacle of pre-war Avia development.

Milton is presently working in virtual self-imposed isolation, periodically leaving the door ajar for a golden glimpse of what will follow.

It's awesome Gentlemen, with many fine refinements, details and ingenious engineering solutions...

But more on that from the Man himself.

**gribouil** · April 10th, 2012, 12:07

Originally Posted by dvj

Avia 51 at "God's Chair"

Simply outstanding!!!

**JoHubb** · April 11th, 2012, 11:00

Originally Posted by nigel richards

Lol.
Seriously John, its always a great pleasure and fascination to see how others tweak their sims.

The Avia 57 is an incredible piece of machinery, a very refined aircraft marking the pinnacle of pre-war Avia development.

Milton is presently working in virtual self-imposed isolation, periodically leaving the door ajar for a golden glimpse of what will follow.

I lost track of Milton for years - since he made the Dash 7 for FS2002, or was it FS2000? Now and again I'd visit his Dash 7 site - http://www.flightsimonline.com/dash7/; and I found his beautiful G18S somewhere. All that was a long time ago (apologies to TSE). You can imagine my surprise when an Avia 51 by him and team popped up on Avsim.

I'm doing a VFR tour of Poland and was heartened by your comments about the GEPro scenery textures. Here are a couple more pics showing mountains to the south of Jelenia Gora (EPJG). I know the transition from green to snow/ice is a bit blocky in places but overall it is not a bad representation. I included the second picture because I like the way the sun lights up the ground through the clouds. So, the GE Pro textures aren't half bad when they work - they convince me anyways

BTW, I use FSG meshes down to 19m for Poland.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL84/.../402046198.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL84/.../402046194.jpg

John

**dvj** · April 11th, 2012, 22:29

Near Squamish

**Milton Shupe** · April 17th, 2012, 19:07

@John Hubbard: I remember you John. It is nice to see you here and still enjoying the Dash 7. We hope to have an updated Dash 7 released in 8 weeks or so.

@dvj: Great scenery! Thanks for sharing the screen shot. :-)

The Avia 57 is moving steadily forward with the exterior model now mapped and headed to the paint shop. The flight model is close to done. The current focus is the VC and it is about 80% completed.

Currently plan for both a 14-passenger and cargo version. Since this model has both flaps and an additional DC-3 type center flap/speed brake, she can land easily on <2000' runways. I have no trouble with 1200' runways, landing at 60 knots. She loves unimproved landing strips. Cruise speed is 176 knots.

**Hurricane91** · April 18th, 2012, 04:50

The new Avia is looking very good Milton. You've put in a lot of time on this sweetheart and it shows. It's a real beauty.

**OleBoy** · April 18th, 2012, 05:31

It's good to see that door, Milton. I'm betting that area alone took some major efforts on the real, and simulated design. She's looking good and progressing nicely.

**Blackbird686** · April 18th, 2012, 06:00

I didn't realise that the '57' was so sleek in design. Very clean lines and a rather nice looking airplane to boot. Looking Good, Milton.

Good to see her up and flying... even if she's still in development. It's about time you went over and got her out of Nigel's hangar...

BB686:USA-flag:

**Milton Shupe** · April 18th, 2012, 06:57

The Avia 57 will be an interesting ride for sure. It is a joy to fly as it just wants to fly itself. Approach and landing is predictable and very controllable, rather forgiving, and the flaps make a world of difference over the previous designs.

The door and stairs were in fact a major challenge but after consultations, and lots of planning, it all worked out great. Lots of moving parts, animations, and timing happening, but sweet to watch.

The package should be ready in about 4 weeks, or so.

**t.creed** · April 18th, 2012, 15:14

thanks for the updates..this looks so appealing..even while parked..!!

can-t wait to fly her..!!

rgds
t creed

**nigel richards** · April 19th, 2012, 14:03

Originally Posted by Blackbird686

I didn't realise that the '57' was so sleek in design. Very clean lines and a rather nice looking airplane to boot. Looking Good, Milton.

Good to see her up and flying... even if she's still in development. It's about time you went over and got her out of Nigel's hangar...

BB686

Don't be a spoil-sport!

That would be like taking candy from a baby...

And in any case only one person knows where the hangar is and he already has his own '57!

Its nowhere near my orchard either - so don't get any big ideas with young Matt on scrumpin' my '57 cos ya won't find it!

Oh...and Bravo-Bravo. look; :USA-flag: pinched yer flag whiles you were fixin 'to pinch m' 57.

So ya better watch out before I gets yer Seafury too!

**Matt Wynn** · April 19th, 2012, 14:29

Originally Posted by nigel richards

Oh...and Bravo-Bravo. look; :USA-flag: pinched yer flag whiles you were fixin 'to pinch m' 57.

ooh we're playing capture the flag.....

"got it! bugger wrong flag..... quick Nigel get it back to base so we score a point! i'll distract him and lay down some supressive fire..... look BB a sea Fury!"

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thinking i may have to check my e-mail inbox according to my Comrade... apparently there's something i need to be looking at....

**nigel richards** · April 19th, 2012, 14:43

Originally Posted by Matt Wynn

ooh we're playing capture the flag.....

"got it! bugger wrong flag..... quick Nigel get it back to base so we score a point! i'll distract him and lay down some supressive fire..... look BB a sea Fury!"
thinking i may have to check my e-mail inbox according to my Comrade... apparently there's something i need to be looking at....

And the winners take all!

:USA-flag: +Avia 57
Attachment 63634 Attachment 63633 Nice catch...finders, keepers....

**PeteHam** · April 19th, 2012, 20:28

Seriously Milton .... are you finding time to sleep and eat .

What with the updated Dash 7 coming out shortly and this Avia 57 in the final stages of production, along with ALL the other wonderful creations of late, it's kinda hard to keep up and get sufficient time in each aircraft to be proficient.

Thanks for all of them especially the Avia 51 & 56 series

..... and I'm really looking forward to the 57.

Pete.