I'd love to see a nice Beech Starship

**PilatusTurbo** · August 31st, 2011, 00:23

One of my favorite planes... ever... :d Such a cool ship, that just didn't make it. Fast, easy to control engine out, and just sexy as hell.

Has there been anything out there for FSX in this regard? Thanks

***Killbilly*** · August 31st, 2011, 05:30

Not that I'm aware of. I've been looking for one for as long as I've had FSX. I would love to see a Carenado/Eaglesoft/Piglet/Lionheart-quality Starship!

**expat** · August 31st, 2011, 06:10

I would settle even for just a native FSX B200 King Air - which is what all Starship owners were given by Raytheon when the FAA withdrew its certifcation.

**simkid22** · August 31st, 2011, 07:01

ISDT has a native Beech 200 although it's just the exterior model so I have the default 350 VC aliased to it. <s>The annoying part is their website is being rebuilt so you will have to try elsewhere if you want it now. http://isdt-israel.com/</s>

http://isdt-israel.com/projects/projects.htm

**Bjoern** · August 31st, 2011, 08:42

I know of two different versions in the "WIP" stage, but both must've died the "lost interest" death.

**warchild** · August 31st, 2011, 09:32

They did.. Unfortunately..
I've also been wanting a starship since i first got fs9 back in 2004. There have been a couple of things that were done for fs9 but neither of them were of usable quality. I've personally given up looking. Its really kinda sad..

I'm not so certain about the FAA having withdrawn its certification though, as after Beech stopped producing them one gentleman in southern california bought up all remaining starships and replacement parts ( 14 truck loads worth ) and went on to become the chase plane for Dick Rutans Starship-1. He still flys it to this day..

**PutPut** · August 31st, 2011, 09:51

Dave Nunez of FSDSXTweak fame has been working on a native Starship since before time. He reports on it once in a while in the FFDS forum. It looks good but probably will be one of those projects that is never finished. (I should talk, I have about 7 of those hanging around).

Paul

**Naismith** · August 31st, 2011, 10:07

Slightly OT but still Beechcraft, has there ever been a Duchess or Queen for MSFS? I don't recall ever seeing them, and there being a profusion of Barons, Kings and Dukes, then logic would attest to the fact we are a very sexist bunch. lol

**SeanTK** · August 31st, 2011, 10:09

Originally Posted by Naismith

Slightly OT but still Beechcraft, has there ever been a Duchess or Queen for MSFS? I don't recall ever seeing them, and there being a profusion of Barons, Kings and Dukes, then logic would attest to the fact we are a very sexist bunch. lol

http://www.justflight.com/product.asp?pid=388

**b52bob** · August 31st, 2011, 11:15

On sale
http://www.pcaviator.com/store/produ...cat=652&page=1

This is the Flying Club 2 which includes the Dutchess for $9.95

**Odie** · August 31st, 2011, 12:51

Originally Posted by warchild

They did.. Unfortunately..
I've also been wanting a starship since i first got fs9 back in 2004. There have been a couple of things that were done for fs9 but neither of them were of usable quality. I've personally given up looking. Its really kinda sad..

I'm not so certain about the FAA having withdrawn its certification though, as after Beech stopped producing them one gentleman in southern california bought up all remaining starships and replacement parts ( 14 truck loads worth ) and went on to become the chase plane for Dick Rutans Starship-1. He still flys it to this day..

As detailed in the History Channel's "Boneyard" special. A 2-hour program that was both interesting and depressing at the same time....still enjoy watching it though.

**Naismith** · August 31st, 2011, 13:39

Originally Posted by SeanTK

http://www.justflight.com/product.asp?pid=388

Hmmm, never been much enamoured by JF a/c, I could of course be wrong as I invariably am according to she who must be obeyed.

I'd love for Carenado or RealAir to try these though or a talented f/w artiste Piglet maybe.

**Anneke** · August 31st, 2011, 14:02

The JF Duchess is a very nice rendition, but overlooked by the community.

***Sundog*** · August 31st, 2011, 15:05

I just saw a nice Starship at the Gary-Chicago airport. I was there to watch the planes come and go for the Chicago Air & Water Show. It was the highlight of the show for me, as that's the only time I've seen one flying. My friends there were asking, "What the hell is that?"

I was wondering if it was Rutan making a refueling stop on a cross country. It was a refueling stop, as it landed, fueled up then departed about half an hour to 45 minutes later, I just don't know whose Starship it is; But I thought the Rutan one was the only one left.

It would be nice to have one for FSX.

**Railrunner130** · August 31st, 2011, 15:57

Mike Stone put one together way back in the day. I don't know if it'd work in FSX, but I'm sure someone would be willing to give it a try. www.pmstone.com

The idea of a Tim Conrad Starship does sound very appetizing and right up his alley.

**Piglet** · August 31st, 2011, 18:39

Once had to repair a Dutchess that folded up its left gear on landing.
Couldn't stop singing to myself "Crash the Dutchess on the Left Hand Side"..
Yeah, A Piglet Starship MAY be had one day. You know, that "list" thing...

**expat** · September 1st, 2011, 01:07

I'm not so certain about the FAA having withdrawn its certification

You are right and I stand corrected. Beech apparently withdrew support due to poor sales in a difficult economy and offered the owners a new B200 as a ($5m) goodwill gesture. Considering the $300m development costs, Beech is lucky to still be around, albeit in the ownership of Raytheon. Have read further that as of Jan 2010 there were nine a/c with active FAA registrations.

Some stuff on Dave Nunez's (seemingly stalled) WIP

http://davenunez.wordpress.com/category/starship/

***Sundog*** · September 1st, 2011, 15:44

Originally Posted by expat

You are right and I stand corrected. Beech apparently withdrew support due to poor sales in a difficult economy and offered the owners a new B200 as a ($5m) goodwill gesture. Considering the $300m development costs, Beech is lucky to still be around, albeit in the ownership of Raytheon. Have read further that as of Jan 2010 there were nine a/c with active FAA registrations.

Some stuff on Dave Nunez's (seemingly stalled) WIP

http://davenunez.wordpress.com/category/starship/

OK, thanks, now I know there are nine. I wish I would have got the number of the one I saw at the airport. I was too busy enjoying it and my camera broke about three weeks ago, so I didn't get any pics either.

**Railrunner130** · September 1st, 2011, 16:07

Originally Posted by expat

You are right and I stand corrected. Beech apparently withdrew support due to poor sales in a difficult economy and offered the owners a new B200 as a ($5m) goodwill gesture. Considering the $300m development costs, Beech is lucky to still be around, albeit in the ownership of Raytheon.

You're not kidding. I used to work for a Beech distributor. I'm amazed that you can have such a screwed up company and still be in business. At one point, I had a meeting with a VP for Beech. I gave him a 13 page report of how bad their support of us was. Of course, he looked at it, kissed my posterior and I'm sure he threw it in the trash on his way out the door.

We maintained one Starship. It was the coolest airplane and always attracted an audience when it landed.

**warchild** · September 1st, 2011, 17:09

Well, ok.. Here's the deal. i really want this plane, like three years ago, so heres what i'm willing to do. For any developer willing to build or finish a starship for fsx, i will build a custom, detailed ( as in as thorough as the P-61s fde ) Flight model for it. i mean really. C'mon.. The Convair 201, the A-7s, The F-22, A-10, F-14 ( Iris ), Pasped, Goose : i mean, how many of these things do you have to buy before i figure out you like my work??.. If someone who knows mr nunez could contact him and extend my offer to him I'd be grateful ( as i cant find a way to contact him myself )..

Pam

**Bjoern** · September 2nd, 2011, 08:58

Originally Posted by warchild

Well, ok.. Here's the deal. i really want this plane, like three years ago, so heres what i'm willing to do. For any developer willing to build or finish a starship for fsx, i will build a custom, detailed ( as in as thorough as the P-61s fde ) Flight model for it. i mean really. C'mon.. The Convair 201, the A-7s, The F-22, A-10, F-14 ( Iris ), Pasped, Goose : i mean, how many of these things do you have to buy before i figure out you like my work??.. If someone who knows mr nunez could contact him and extend my offer to him I'd be grateful ( as i cant find a way to contact him myself )..

If you want to do a good deed, you could flight model up my Do-328. It looks cool, too! :P

**PilatusTurbo** · September 2nd, 2011, 23:10

Oh, Piglet... What would I have to do for you to skip the Starship to the top of the list??

I'd love a Piglet quality Starship.

Just sayin' :ernae:

**dharris** · September 3rd, 2011, 06:12

Maybe if we all asked him REALLLLLY nice he would consider that request. Still one of my all time favorites.

**vonstroheim** · September 3rd, 2011, 09:32

Originally Posted by simkid22

ISDT has a native Beech 200 although it's just the exterior model so I have the default 350 VC aliased to it

Yes indeed the ISDT King Air B200 is very nice! Thanks for the tip...

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Tim Conrad's Scrofa SS-4P is FSX native and just wonderful...

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Yes I know this is not what you're looking for... Here is some pictures for those like me who didn't know what a Starship is...

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So a Starship is a just a B200 flying in the wrong direction...