NEW! Freeware Fieseler Fi-167 By Kazunori Ito

**Flyboy208** · June 1st, 2010, 07:56

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FS2002/FS2004 Fieseler Fi-167

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FS2002/FS2004 Fieseler Fi-167. A 1930s German biplane torpedo and reconnaissance bomber designed for the new aircraft carriers then being planned. Two kinds of models (clean / with weapons) are included. By Kazunori Ito.

Cheers ! Mike :salute:

**Naismith** · June 1st, 2010, 10:33

Another gem, K Ito is a star. How he manages to knock out these models with such regularity is a mystery.

**Z-claudius24** · June 1st, 2010, 11:21

Hi,

Thank's .. nice plane

**Naismith** · June 1st, 2010, 12:10

Aaargh! Anyone else getting the a/c tip over to the left on start up of engine?

***Cees Donker*** · June 1st, 2010, 12:23

Originally Posted by Naismith

Aaargh! Anyone else getting the a/c tip over to the left on start up of engine?

Yes! Feels like the rubber band man!

But it's a jewel!

Cees

***frihjul92*** · June 1st, 2010, 12:27

Try these contact points.

[contact_points]
point.0=1,-18.235000,0.000000,-3.00000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.530928,0.000000,0.3 87152,2.500000,0.635212,5.000000,5.000000,0.000000 ,0.000000,0.000000
point.1=1,7.497000,-5.916667,-8.880000,1574.803200,1.000000,0.530928,0.000000,0. 642876,2.500000,0.569872,0.000000,0.000000,2.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.2=1,7.497000,5.916667,-8.880000,1574.803200,2.000000,0.530928,0.000000,0. 642876,2.500000,0.569872,0.000000,0.000000,3.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.3=2,4.2320000,-22.425000,-2.051000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0. 000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,5.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.4=2,4.232000,22.425000,-2.051000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0. 000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,6.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.5=2,-11.610000,0.000000,0.330000,1574.803200,0.000000,0 .000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.0000 00,0.000000,9.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.6=2,11.050000,0.000000,-2.664000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0. 000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,4.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
static_pitch=13.338660
static_cg_height=7.020000
gear_system_type=1

William

**Matt Wynn** · June 1st, 2010, 12:42

i've just got to make a paintkit for this, anyone want it when it's done? :salute:

**T Square** · June 1st, 2010, 13:35

Downloaded this Acrft this morning, but haven't loaded it up yet. Question do the wings fold ? Looking at a book I have "The Warplanes of the Third Riech" by "William Green" the Fiesler had some pretty fantastic flight characteristics, "Flight trials revealed the fact the Fi 167 V1 possessed truly exceptional low-speed characteristics, and throttled back and with elevators fully up, the aircraft simply sank slowly and almost vertically. on one ocasion, with Gerhard Fiesler at the controls the aircraft "sank" 9,800ft. to an altitude of a 100 ft. above the ground while remaining continuously over one spot." Pretty fantastic stuff. I think this one will definitely be worth enlisting an expert airfile guy to have a look see.

**Naismith** · June 1st, 2010, 13:38

Originally Posted by frihjul92

Try these contact points.

[contact_points]
point.0=1,-18.235000,0.000000,-3.00000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.530928,0.000000,0.3 87152,2.500000,0.635212,5.000000,5.000000,0.000000 ,0.000000,0.000000
point.1=1,7.497000,-5.916667,-8.880000,1574.803200,1.000000,0.530928,0.000000,0. 642876,2.500000,0.569872,0.000000,0.000000,2.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.2=1,7.497000,5.916667,-8.880000,1574.803200,2.000000,0.530928,0.000000,0. 642876,2.500000,0.569872,0.000000,0.000000,3.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.3=2,4.2320000,-22.425000,-2.051000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0. 000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,5.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.4=2,4.232000,22.425000,-2.051000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0. 000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,6.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
point.5=2,-11.610000,0.000000,0.330000,1574.803200,0.000000,0 .000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.0000 00,0.000000,9.000000,0.000000,0.000000
point.6=2,11.050000,0.000000,-2.664000,1574.803200,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0. 000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,4.00000 0,0.000000,0.000000
static_pitch=13.338660
static_cg_height=7.020000
gear_system_type=1

William

Sorry to say this is even worse, immediate crash on scenery loading.

**hurricane3** · June 1st, 2010, 15:43

Downloaded the Fieseler Fi-167, and on engine start or when trying to take off, it tips to the left bad enough to dig a wingtip into the runway.I had a similar problem with the Nieuport 17 I downloaded a while back but this is worse. The only way I can take off with either is slew them into the air. Wonder if there's any fix for these planes?

**Z-claudius24** · June 1st, 2010, 17:09

Hi,

The only way I can take off with either is slew them into the air. Wonder if there's any fix for these planes?

Or you can level down the FS2004 realism aircraft settings

**hurricane3** · June 1st, 2010, 18:21

Originally Posted by claudius24

Hi,

Or you can level down the FS2004 realism aircraft settings

I already tried leveling down the sittings as easy as you can make them ,still same thing

**Z-claudius24** · June 1st, 2010, 18:36

Hi,

Extremely strange I must say

I have no problems at all .. very stable plane on engine start
Will post a video in few minutes

EDITED:

The no probs start engine video

http://www.4shared.com/video/_geiCHV...-Fieseler.html

**hurricane3** · June 1st, 2010, 19:00

Opps ,somehow my realism setting somehow got knocked up to full,I usually keep them a little below halfway,changed them back all the way left and both planes work fine.I'am slowly moveing them right till I get just the right amount of torque.
Thanks for the reply, sorry I was so dumb as not to check that they hadn't moved.

adhockey · June 1st, 2010, 19:18

A German "String Bag"?

**Flyboy208** · June 1st, 2010, 19:44

Sorry some of you are having issues with this aircraft. Only problem I have is landing - one bouncy bird - have alot of tail dragger time - real and simulated - neither helps with this one!

Trying to make a new prop texture for this one - still a work in progress - as it showed up as 2-bladed, not the intended 3 blade blur.

Mike

**Z-claudius24** · June 1st, 2010, 19:55

Hi,

one bouncy bird

Indeed one more

plane

**aeromed202** · June 2nd, 2010, 03:25

Maybe you folks can answer a question from another thread. I know the regard and affection for K. Ito and his wonderful models he produces. However it is also known that his models are often enough afflicted with cfg issues. My question is does anyone have it on good authority that he is OK with cfg mods, without need for direct permission, provided they correct problems, contribute to his great work and are made available to all? I'm e-mailing him now but was wondering if this is an accepted condition already.

**Matt Wynn** · June 2nd, 2010, 07:14

Just to show you a sneaky peak of paintkit progress... got all the lines on as you can see just working on the Fuselage Currently...

***falcon409*** · June 2nd, 2010, 07:47

Originally Posted by aeromed202

Maybe you folks can answer a question from another thread. I know the regard and affection for K. Ito and his wonderful models he produces. However it is also known that his models are often enough afflicted with cfg issues. My question is does anyone have it on good authority that he is OK with cfg mods, without need for direct permission, provided they correct problems, contribute to his great work and are made available to all? I'm e-mailing him now but was wondering if this is an accepted condition already.

Yep, if you read his readme file, his biggest concern is the use of his models in Combat Sims. He does not advocate war and does not want his aircraft converted for use in any of the Combat Sims. Otherwise, his request that any repaints be saved in the same format as the original is the only other restriction. Personally, whenever I do repaints of his (not very much any more) that I do for myself (in FSX) I do the textures twice size and save as 32bit. But I don't release any of the work I do either, it's just for my own use.

***Cees Donker*** · June 2nd, 2010, 08:33

Well, this plane deserves a fix of the cfg file. Without it I won't fly it and that's a shame! Who can come forward as a cfg-guru?

Cees

**Terry** · June 2nd, 2010, 09:16

Originally Posted by Cees Donker

Well, this plane deserves a fix of the cfg file. Without it I won't fly it and that's a shame! Who can come forward as a cfg-guru?

Cees

I tried fixing it but it's too screwed up. Think I'll try a different cfg that I know is good.
Any suggestions on a good match?

**norab** · June 2nd, 2010, 10:51

I tried fixing it but it's too screwed up. Think I'll try a different cfg that I know is good.
Any suggestions on a good match?

What about a Swordfish or TBD Devatator, should both fit the same general performance envelope except for the reported near vertical descent abillty, also maybe a Kate

**Terry** · June 2nd, 2010, 11:08

I used the JU-87b, seems to work fairly well. You need to use the entire cfg file not just the contacts. The datum point and COG on this model is 6' behind the wings so I had to change it to get it to take off without a nose dive. It wants to roll ahead a few feet when you start the engine, I don't know how to fix that. If someone does please post.

**aeromed202** · June 2nd, 2010, 12:42

I'm about done with contact points but found that other sections were affecting things a lot so I am now adjusting those. You may have just as much luck with grafting another but for sure not all things will line up. Does anyone have a good e-mail for Mr. Ito, my attempt failed.