New Learjet 23 add-on

**Ark** · April 29th, 2010, 13:46

Has anybody purchased this? Just saw it on Simmarket.

http://secure.simmarket.com/franz-lu...arjet-23.phtml

**ryanbatc** · April 29th, 2010, 13:50

No, too bad it uses the default Lear VC.... argh!

**Ark** · April 29th, 2010, 13:57

Originally Posted by ryanbatc

No, too bad it uses the default Lear VC.... argh!

Yeah, I just saw that.

The cockpit window shape is also a little funky.

I wish we had more corporate jet add-ons in FSX. You'd think there would be more learjets created by add-on developers. I am about all airbus'd and boeing'd out.

**ryanbatc** · April 29th, 2010, 14:00

Originally Posted by Ark

I wish we had more corporate jet add-ons in FSX. You'd think there would be more learjets created by add-on developers. I am about all airbus'd and boeing'd out.

Oh I hear you!

Falcon, Gulfstream (yeah yeah I know about their lame policy), Raytheon!

All we really have right now are Eaglesoft's Citations and Flight1's C510 Mustang.

**Ark** · April 29th, 2010, 14:03

Originally Posted by ryanbatc

Oh I hear you!

Falcon, Gulfstream (yeah yeah I know about their lame policy), Raytheon!

All we really have right now are Eaglesoft's Citations and Flight1's C510 Mustang.

Yeah, talk about an untapped market. I am no FS Market specialist, but I think a good older model Learjet would make a killing. I personally would LOVE a TBM 700 (yeah, not a learjet, but a corporate type of aircraft no less!).

**ryanbatc** · April 29th, 2010, 14:25

Yeah like a native King Air 200 or Super 350!! A TBM would be nice as well, I'll take an 850 though haha

Flight1 was supposed to be working on a King Air 200 but it might have got canned... not sure

The only business-like turboprop up and coming I know of is RealAir's Royal Turbine Mod for their wonderful Duke:
http://realairsimulations.com/duke09...e=duke09_intro
http://www.royalturbine.com/

Also there is a learjet 23 I think with a VC, located here:
http://20series.xtremeprototypes.com/en/

To be honest, the model looks a little dated (as in fs98 style) but I've heard good things about it

**Ark** · April 29th, 2010, 14:39

Originally Posted by ryanbatc

Yeah like a native King Air 200 or Super 350!! A TBM would be nice as well, I'll take an 850 though haha

Flight1 was supposed to be working on a King Air 200 but it might have got canned... not sure

The only business-like turboprop up and coming I know of is RealAir's Royal Turbine Mod for their wonderful Duke:
http://realairsimulations.com/duke09...e=duke09_intro
http://www.royalturbine.com/

Also there is a learjet 23 I think with a VC, located here:
http://20series.xtremeprototypes.com/en/

To be honest, the model looks a little dated (as in fs98 style) but I've heard good things about it

A while back, I thought I read somewhere that Flight1 was working on a TBM 700 as well as an older model Lear. With the popularity of the Meridia they created some time ago, I bet a TBM 700 or a 850 would do really well.

That Xtreme Prototypes Lear I have heard mixed thigs about. The visual model is supposed to be really good but the FDE is supposed to be a little wacky. I thik it comes with a few differet models of the Lear though. The VC, from what I've read, seems to have a really like or really dislike sort of following. From the pics, it would seem the devs took a straight forward and rather flat approach to the VC textures which some seem to be really put off by while others seem to like them quite a bit. I guess it is a toss up on that one. At a price of close to $40, I would like to see some pretty defiitive "positives" to the add-on.

A 850 would be REALLY nice.

**GT182** · April 29th, 2010, 14:59

Originally Posted by ryanbatc

Yeah like a native King Air 200 or Super 350!! A TBM would be nice as well, I'll take an 850 though haha

Last I heard MAAM Sim was supposed to be doing their TBM for FSX too. But that was last year, and I've heard nothing on it since then. I will find out tho at the WWII Weekend this June 4th, 5th, and 6th if it's being worked on.

**ryanbatc** · April 29th, 2010, 15:10

Originally Posted by GT182

Last I heard MAAM Sim was supposed to be doing their TBM for FSX too. But that was last year, and I've heard nothing on it since then. I will find out tho at the WWII Weekend this June 4th, 5th, and 6th if it's being worked on.

ahaha I think you're talking about a TBM avenger while we're talking about a TBM Socata:
http://www.tbm850.com/

**Lionheart** · April 29th, 2010, 15:48

Thanks for the heads up on this. I love the Lear 23. Awesome lines on this plane. Love those short wings and huge wingtanks....

I hope he updates to his own VC soon.

Bill

**Gibbage** · April 29th, 2010, 16:03

I gotta say, that product looks horrid. The texture around the canopy is warped, the engines are modeled wrong, no wing fillet, ugh. Too many to list. Im staying away from this one.

***srgalahad*** · April 30th, 2010, 09:15

There are flaws - make your own comparisons:
http://secure.simmarket.com/franz-lu...arjet-23.phtml (screenshots #2 & #4)
vs
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../7/1524705.jpg

Yes, the cockpit window lines are incorrect... I dunno.. it might have the correct number of rivets on the wing panels which would certainly redeem it somewhat...

Of course, as a pilot I rarely get to admire/nitpick the exterior details at FL350 or 140kts on short final. Now if it never flies and resides in a museum that charges 16 Euro for admission I'd expect perfection...

**Gibbage** · April 30th, 2010, 09:35

Wow. You mean just having the correct number of rivits on a panel can redeem poor modeling, lazy UV mapping and just sloppy work? If I knew that in the past, it would of saved me a LOT of work. Ugh!

Well I will keep that in mind for future products though!