Inglorious B's........

[Ken Stallings]

Actually, I would argue they were very similar. And their mutual antagonism was entirely due to their similarity.

Remember, prior to the invasion of Poland, there was a real possibility that the British and French may have allied with Germany to run the Soviets out of Finland. Further, despite the writings in Mein Kamph, Stalin and Hitler brokered a treaty to divide Poland. Both dictators sized up the situation and determined they could play the peace angle for a period of time before readying their respective militaries to go after each other. Hitler flinched first and the alliance to defeat him was born.

From a practical consideration, Stalin and Hitler employed precisely the same agenda -- a craven quest for totality of personal power and development of a cult of personality.

Additionally, both employed brutal methods against segments of their local populace. Stalin embarked upon a purely genocidal campaign of forced industrialization which resulted in the sale of grain for capital to the point where millions were starved to death from induced famines.

Hitler's efforts against Jews is of course well documented.

Both employed ruthless purges. Both employed state police units to develop a power base built upon fear.

Both used state control of private business. Even in Italy the Fascist government did the same by nationalizing basic industries.

As I said, fascism is total submission of individual liberty to the government. Your first quote supported that.

However, fascism is not by any means restricted to right or left politics. Hugo Chavez is morphing to a dictator and his ultimate quest appears to be fascism under a left ideology.

Augusto Pinochet was a dictator seeking fascism under a right ideology.

As I wrote, fascism is a quest for state power over the citizenry with alienation of individual rights over the state.

Cheers,

Ken

[tigisfat]

Though they often run hand in hand, let us not confuse right wing and left wing with being liberal and conservative. I'm a very free-thinking person, some might say some sort of liberal for a number of reasons, but my views are so far to the right that you can't see them from here. :mixedsmi:


IB was an entertaining movie, but it's hard to say it's a really good movie. It was just fun and goofy. The acting of the 'jew hunter' (I hope that doesn't offend anyone, I couldn't remember his name) was INCREDIBLE to watch. You have to look past that it's a fictional and fun remake of WWII. My brother couldn't look past it.

[Panther_99FS]

Okay,
Let me see if I can digest this thread....

It went from "should I watch this movie :ques:"..
To... "socialism, national socialism, facsim, left & right wing".....:isadizzy:

[redriver6]

IB was an entertaining movie, but it's hard to say it's a really good movie. It was just fun and goofy. The acting of the 'jew hunter' (I hope that doesn't offend anyone, I couldn't remember his name) was INCREDIBLE to watch. You have to look past that it's a fictional and fun remake of WWII. My brother couldn't look past it.

i would have to say i agree with that...and check out 6:10 of this video

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[Ken Stallings]

Okay,
Let me see if I can digest this thread....

It went from "should I watch this movie :ques:"..
To... "socialism, national socialism, facsim, left & right wing".....:isadizzy:

Well, Tarantino and Robert Rodriquez are great friends and Rodriquez made a bank robbery movie that turned into a vampire flick!

So can it really be surprising that a Tarantino movie thread turned into a poltiical science discussion?

Cheers,

Ken

[djscoo]

Though they often run hand in hand, let us not confuse right wing and left wing with being liberal and conservative.

Agreed...


Stalin's enemy was the rich, and the general population suffered as a result.
Hitler's enemy was the foreigner and the foreign influence or anyone who threatened his society. The general population didn't suffer, only those who were deemed "the enemy".

Stalin implemented short-sighted plans with the aims of improving production. The population suffered famines and forced labor.
Hitler implemented well thought out plans to improve Germany's financial situation. The general population saw the effects and were pleased.

Stalin pitted the rich against the poor, he used secret police to purge arbitrary enemies of the state. Anyone was at risk
Hitler pitted the conformists against the non-conformists. He used secret police to purge enemies of the state. It was clear to the population what constituted an arrest. Conformism was encouraged.


Both were evil, evil, evil dudes, no argument about that.

[boxcar]

...and check out 6:10 of this video

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..... Hilarious! Watched the whole video but the Inglorious B's comments starting @ 6:10 were tops!
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[txnetcop]

chris, that made me laugh pretty good, because you are sooo right.

but i think what he was saying is, that bassturds wasn't even that good.

Yep he was terrible in Troy and should have stayed in his actor's trailer for IB
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[djscoo]

I'll add "Babel" to the list of great movies featuring Brad Pitt. It's a truly unique film.

[vora]

I liked IB very much. Waltz is acting Pitt into the ground IMHO (although I also like Brad Pitt as an actor).
I generally like Tarantino flicks because it shows how much this man LOVES cinema (and comics). His movies really show what a cinema nerd he is.

[cheezyflier]

i will agree with that about tarantino. he does have quite a knowledge of cinema and comics/animation.

[Bjoern]

Okay,
Let me see if I can digest this thread....

It went from "should I watch this movie :ques:"..
To... "socialism, national socialism, facsim, left & right wing".....:isadizzy:

I don't see any reason for worries (yet), P.

Hitler implemented well thought out plans to improve Germany's financial situation. The general population saw the effects and were pleased.

It was more a shot at economical autarky....with the goal of being able to entirely support a war from within the home country.
Financially, the Third Reich was a massive train wreck.