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  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by harleyman View Post
    bravo Bill...I now have VC..

    Just like adding scenery to FSX manually then...


    Ok I have made progress ...Thank you..



    Does the SETA always turn off with every user movement?? Like with it on, and I make a steering correctioon, the SETA turns off.. And it goes back to 1000 at game launch everytime..Is that normal?

    Thanks
    HM, CONGRATS, you are on your way now

    You are correct about the SETA drive it is straight line only as far as user controls go, it will do some steering on it's own but if you touch a control or change the view (Forward to left right etc) it shuts down, I look at it as a safety feature, when you are going at SETA Speeds you have no time to react to danger so it is a good thing it shuts down.

    Here is one more link you might want to check out X3-Handbook-v4.zip this is on the Apricot Mapping service site it is an enhanced Manual for X3, and this guy has done and excellent job. It does contain some spoilers but they are identified so you can avoid them if you wish, but reagardless it is an excellent user guide.
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    Thanks for the manual...I have it and will read thru it today ...

    To bad about the SETA drive shutting off..Without it if feels so slow...LOL

  3. #28
    Mason, print out that manual. It's the only way to play and read what you need to know and learn at the same time. Glad too that you are moving forward with this beast. Like said before the learning curve is steep. Your life ill not be the same as you knew it with X3. LOL And get the Mrs. in it too. 2 heads working on it together at close range will be a big help too. It'll be like dating all over again.

    Right now I've got a mess on my desk from all the manuals, and info Mike and Bill have written down here. So do like me ... get yer readin glasses out.
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    I am lurking here and taking notes. My copy of the game is coming by slow stagecoach over the snow covered pass, i expect it may be here very soon.... in the meantime i am shadowing this learning process thanks to Harleyman and all the great help. thanks to all.:ernae:
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrisGer View Post
    I am lurking here and taking notes. My copy of the game is coming by slow stagecoach over the snow covered pass, i expect it may be here very soon.... in the meantime i am shadowing this learning process thanks to Harleyman and all the great help. thanks to all.:ernae:

    Well..It was tough at first, onlt cause I wanted a VC in my ship, and it just was way beyond comprension..I am also very run down and tired too...

    The game is really fun...

    I will take GT182's advice and print that manual off...I will click launch again tonight and try more stuff..

    I am having trouble with AP still as of last night,,,But will try again...

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    I just loaded the game , and was tring to dock with the tutorial dude and my ship just kept spinning and spinning in circles....

    This was not the case ever before..I could let go og my Logitec Pro stick and it would just spin and spin...


    And at what poing do you use AP..Everytime I try all it does is say Disconnected AP.... And it was not even on....

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by harleyman View Post
    I just loaded the game , and was tring to dock with the tutorial dude and my ship just kept spinning and spinning in circles....

    This was not the case ever before..I could let go og my Logitec Pro stick and it would just spin and spin...


    And at what poing do you use AP..Everytime I try all it does is say Disconnected AP.... And it was not even on....

    Thanks


    HM,

    I have that after dog-fights now and then. I reset my Joystick by unplugging it, listening for windows to go 'Ding...!', then I plug it back in and usually its reset. If that doesnt work, I click on a station (target), and then shift-D and dock, save, reboot the game, and continue my journey/mission.

    Another thing, which happened to me is my control yoke has rudder trim and if I spin the wheel knob a bit (I do often by mistake), then it spins the ship continuously...

    Concerning AP being used continuously, no.. I use it about 50% of the time. If I am doing trade routes involving a very short amount of time, I use pure AP with SETA drive. Otherwise, I like to steer and all, like in a real plane. Cruising around huge asteroids, dodging between them, flying ultra close to stations, stopping and checking things out, scanning ships to see who they are, etc, is what I do often..


    Docking when you are beginning is best done via AP...



    I never did the tutorial flights.. Man.. I missed out..



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  8. #33
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    Thanks Bill

    I reset my stick with its calibration deal and its good again..

    Still cant get the AP working right..but I am trying...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarleymansWife View Post
    Oh COME ON! You are SUCH a WUSS! All I've heard about for weeks is this game, I get for you for Christmas, and the FIRST DAY you install and try to play, you're already crying! What gives, man? LOL You better get your rear in gear and learn not give up this easily.

    Come on, Y'all, help this fool out before I have to hurt him! :greenf:
    Sounds like my kinda woman ... shove a stick up his backbone! :ernae:

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  10. #35
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    Question...

    I target, say a cattle station, gain permission to land,,

    Still hand flying to dock, and out of nowhere I always get...docking aborted??????????


    Whats up with that....

    Again...Once within how many clicks do I set AP and with what keys....Somethings gotta be wrong ...UGH...

  11. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by harleyman View Post
    Question...

    I target, say a cattle station, gain permission to land,,

    Still hand flying to dock, and out of nowhere I always get...docking aborted??????????


    Whats up with that....

    Again...Once within how many clicks do I set AP and with what keys....Somethings gotta be wrong ...UGH...
    Patience Grasshopper.

    Docking Aborted usually means your speed is too fast on approach. Take it slower the closer you get. Also Red "down arrow" should show in your HUD letting you know your speed is too fast.

    To get AP working I click on a station I want to dock at. That HUD will turn green and a menu should appear. Click on Automatic Docking with Target. [I think that's it] Don't click your mouse or AP will turn off. If you are too close to where you want to dock, you will have to turn around and manually pilot your ship away for a few Kms and try to Auto Dock again.
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    Aborted Dockings; Also caused from taking too long, shuts off after a while.


    Mason, you 'should' be able to 'turn' very very slightly on fast ships without shutting off SETA. With huge ships, like the Split Elephant or Terran carrier 'Tokyo', you can use almost full turn on the joystick and it will stay on SETA. Small fighters though usually will bounce off the SETA if you touch the joystick. Arrow keys will turn it off immediately.

    To access your AP and commands, hit shift-C. Then you can click Navigation/Dock-at/Sector/Station and hit enter and you start your flight to that dock.

    Later, when you have Hyper Drive (jump drive), you can tune your ship to auto-jump, and when you pick a station in another sector to dock at, your ship will auto-jump to that sector and then fly to the station and dock. Pretty cool stuff.

    You can hit J key when in AP mode.


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    YUP I'm to fast then..have seen the red arrow down


    After I target a station, I have never seen a box that gives AP ...Hmmmm

    I'll go see again

    Thanks

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    Mason...

    Watch this (if you havent already).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtzUt...eature=related

    [YOUTUBE]OtzUtCWfkKU[/YOUTUBE]
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    Thanks Bill..I'll check it out after skype with my daughters friend thats loosing her mom

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    They are still in my prayers Mason. Its been rough on you as well man. Hang in there.

    Awesome that you are a strength for them that is keeping them all together.



    I think I had forgotten to tell you about thrusters. I use them often, and I dont think normally everyone else does, but with having had a shuttle sim years ago, I used them alot and so I use them on this. About the only time you need them is when you are parking up beside another ship, or when you are undocking from a station.

    Up/Down thrusters are W and S, with S being down thruster.

    Side to side thrusters are A and D.

    Rotational thrusters (Z axis) are Q and E, (if you dont have a twist joystick or rudder pedals).


    For using these when undocking, you would;
    * Click Undock
    * Blip the S key for 'down thrust' for a moment (2 to 3 seconds?)
    * Pull the nose down with joystick or up arrow (works like trim in FS)
    * Then accellerate away along the taxi lights/approach lights ramp

    Using the approach lights ramp to accellerate away ensures you do not hit anyone that might be approaching the docking arms from under you. When you rotate down, you can see them coming. Bigger ships always do this, while smaller fighters usually undock, drop down a bit, then accellerate away without nosing down. (AI traffic that is).


    I hope you are resting well man. Things like what your friends are going through really take alot out of you. When mom got her knee worked on, I was half living at the hospital, and that was just a maintenance surgery. Really took alot out of me, but I wouldnt be anywheres else..

    Youre the man!



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    Great to know...Thanks..I have only docked several times, so only several un-docking ..And it seemed that my ship did drop out, I never had to do anything except turn and go as far as I remember....LOl

    And I think my ship is called...ummmm I forgot...LOL

    YUP..These things do take alot out of you..Thanks for your kind words Bill..They mean much... Mostly they bring back those memories of being with my mom that dies from cancer her last few months, and seeing , living, and knowing just how awful cander deaths really are..

    I was very fortuinate, my mom had great faith, and had come to terms with dying, and was ready.This lady has lost her faith, and is fighting death and in great denial still....Man..It sux for lack of a better word.

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    Mason, I have been thinking of your daughters friend and what you all must be feeling, we have you in our thoughts and prayers. I have lived through the same ordeal myself the past two years, having lost a cousin after a long a couragous battle with cancer, and watching another still fighting the good fight, she has come to terms with her fate and is ready, however her husband has not and it is going ot be very difficult for him this year. Nothing any of the family including his lovely brave wife say seems to get through he keeps insisting she will be fine, while she and everyone else know the clock is ticking...

    Take care my friend, and keep the faith, it is what can be most comfort, when you really need it.
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    Hey Mason,

    Good to know you are doing well on docking and undocking.... I started like that, just to get the feel of it...

    The first time I started I did a mission I never even finish, lack of time and I was fascinated on the things I saw in the Xuniverse... I was touring basically... forgot that I have a mission....

    Don't worry if you don't remember where you are and what ship you are in... It's normal, (it comes with aging process) :isadizzy:

    And when you restart and you don't find anything, don't freak out, it is just in the mind.... if you need help, just holler, there are gurus here to help: Mike, Bill, LD, GT.... (and sorry if I missed your name)


    Two years ago, in February, my uncle from TX passed away from cancer and old age, he decided for us to pull the plug, we were all crying for him, but he was just so cool about it, we had it on video, he was saying farewell my friends.... he said his battle is over and he surrenders.... the plug was pulled and after three days, he was gone... with a smile on his face!

    Take them courage, Mason....

    It is contagious, show them your faith, and all will follow you... We still pray for this family....

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    It was my friends wife actually gigabyte( a member here)...It was their daughter that has been having the hardest time, and I have spent countless hours on the phone and e mail talking with her...


    She called this morning to say that her mom, had passed quietly in the night last night..This was after Hospice had to raise her meds daily for over a week to keep her calm...


    I am glad that it is over and she went peacefully....

    The Lord is my shepard.......etc

    Thanks for everything

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    Psalm 23

    A psalm of David.

    1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want.

    2 He makes me lie down in green pastures,
    he leads me beside quiet waters,

    3 he restores my soul.
    He guides me in paths of righteousness
    for his name's sake.

    4 Even though I walk
    through the valley of the shadow of death, [a]
    I will fear no evil,
    for you are with me;
    your rod and your staff,
    they comfort me.

    5 You prepare a table before me
    in the presence of my enemies.
    You anoint my head with oil;
    my cup overflows.

    6 Surely goodness and love will follow me
    all the days of my life,
    and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
    forever.

    Chacha


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    I like this version better:




    Psalm 23 (Amplified Bible)

    Psalm 23

    A Psalm of David.

    1THE LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, guide, and shield me], I shall not lack.

    2He makes me lie down in [fresh, tender] green pastures; He leads me beside the still and restful waters.(A)

    3He refreshes and restores my life (my self); He leads me in the paths of righteousness [uprightness and right standing with Him--not for my earning it, but] for His name's sake.

    4Yes, though I walk through the [deep, sunless] valley of the shadow of death, I will fear or dread no evil, for You are with me; Your rod [to protect] and Your staff [to guide], they comfort me.

    5You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with [a]oil; my [brimming] cup runs over.

    6Surely or only goodness, mercy, and unfailing love shall follow me all the days of my life, and through the length of my days the house of the Lord [and His presence] shall be my dwelling place.

    Chacha


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    Quote Originally Posted by harleyman View Post
    It was my friends wife actually gigabyte( a member here)...It was their daughter that has been having the hardest time, and I have spent countless hours on the phone and e mail talking with her...


    She called this morning to say that her mom, had passed quietly in the night last night..This was after Hospice had to raise her meds daily for over a week to keep her calm...


    I am glad that it is over and she went peacefully....

    The Lord is my shepard.......etc

    Thanks for everything
    Sorry to hear this Mason. All is well then, there is no more suffering.

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    Sorry to hear that Mason. But she is now in a place where there is no suffering, only peace and calm with the Man above.
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    Thanks guys and gals..

    yes..its better to walk with Angles, then be here suffering .

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