24-hr sale on Lionheart Tailwind: US$8

**dswo** · November 7th, 2009, 03:49

Sale:
http://www.pcaviator.com/dlstore/pro...?productid=622

Product description with lots of screenshots:
http://www.lionheartcreations.com/Tailwind.html

harleyman · November 7th, 2009, 03:51

If you don't have this one..

GET IT....Plain and simple.....Its GREAT !

***FlameOut*** · November 7th, 2009, 03:52

dswo,

Yep, I'm getting that puppy as I type :ernae:

**2Low** · November 7th, 2009, 04:34

Woohoo!
I've been looking at this one awhile. Great deal, thanks for the HU!

***modelr*** · November 7th, 2009, 05:15

Originally Posted by FlameOut

dswo,

Yep, I'm getting that puppy as I type :ernae:

Me too :ernae:

**DB93** · November 7th, 2009, 07:09

Hi all,

I'd like to jump in on this deal, but before I do, I have a couple of questions I hope someone can answer for me. I've never used PC Aviator before, so I was wondering if they their own 'wrapper' like Flight1's? Also, how are reloads handled through them if there are updates released for the plane? I know I've never had a problem downloading, updating and installing the Kodiak through the Flight1 wrapper system, and I just want to be sure that purchaing through PC Aviator also allows for this as well, whenever the aircraft needs to be updated or reinstalled.

Thanks for any info.

**Marvin Carter** · November 7th, 2009, 08:55

You just rerun the installer no online act.

**Lionheart** · November 7th, 2009, 10:58

Thanks for the heads up David.

(Just found out). :d

If anyone has any questions, let me know.

Its a rediculously good price. Gets you a speeder in three types of outerwear.

For those that have OS64 systems, you may need to 'direct' the installer to your FS folder.

Bill

Seadog · November 7th, 2009, 11:07

Originally Posted by DB93

Hi all,

I'd like to jump in on this deal, but before I do, I have a couple of questions I hope someone can answer for me. I've never used PC Aviator before, so I was wondering if they their own 'wrapper' like Flight1's? Also, how are reloads handled through them if there are updates released for the plane? I know I've never had a problem downloading, updating and installing the Kodiak through the Flight1 wrapper system, and I just want to be sure that purchaing through PC Aviator also allows for this as well, whenever the aircraft needs to be updated or reinstalled.

Thanks for any info.

George - Once your purchase is processed, you get at least two emails. One is a full receipt, while the other contains a link to download the product, the reverse of how Flight 1 handles it where you download first and purchase second through the wrapper. The link is good for 720 hours. There is no free place to get a re-download of the identical product that you bought after that link expires. Somewhere on their site is a description of how to purchase the right to re-download the same product. It costs $2.95 if bought along with the product and $7.95 if bought later. If the product requires a license key serial number, you get a third email containing that information.

When an updated version is released, and after PC Aviator has a few days to begin to make it available, you can contact Customer Service by email and specify the product and your order number, and they will give you a new link, also good for 30 days, to download the full updated product. I've obtained new downloads of updated products every time I've asked. They told me they can make patches available the same way, but I haven't ever had to ask them for any.

Most products can be updated directly from the website for the product. Lately, William Ortis has been making upgrade patches available on his Lionheart Creations website, having recently done so for the Kodiak and the Epic. This allows you to get just the changed elements of the particular design, a smaller download, and bypass even the minor bother of having to contact the reseller and wait for a reply. According to their recorded telephone message, PC Aviator has Monday through Thursday office hours, for example.

If you download from PC Aviator and save a copy to a CD or DVD, you can reinstall without re-contacting them over the internet. Products that require license key serial numbers would still require that data to be entered, but it wouldn't require contacting PC Aviator. Hope that answers your questions.

**DB93** · November 7th, 2009, 11:14

Originally Posted by Marvin Carter

You just rerun the installer no online act.

Thanks for the information, and sorry if this is a stupid question, but does re-running the installer download newer versions of the aircraft should an updated version become available?

If I've read their page correctly, it states that they send you a unique download code that is only good for 7 days. Now I know that I can buy it, download it, install it, and back it up to disk for reinstallation later, so 7 days is more than enough time to download it. My question is about what happens when and if Lionheart updates the plane? Do they send out a new link to download the updated version that we can then install using our existing serial number? Or are we essentially 'stuck' with whatever version the plane was when we bought it?

With the Flight1 wrapper, whenever a newer version of the Kodiak is released, I can just redownload the Flight1 wrapper version through Lionheart's site, input my registration/purchase information, and the new version installs. I just want to be sure that purchasing from them isn't going to lock me out of any potential updates that Lionheart may make in the future.

Thanks again, for any information on this.

**DB93** · November 7th, 2009, 11:57

Seadog,

Thank you, that was the information I was looking for. I wanted to be sure there was a method in place for being able to get updates.

Obviously, I type slowly as your post wasn't there when I started typing my last response. lol. I feel more confident about buying from them now, and will be picking this up post-haste.

Thanks again everyone.

**DB93** · November 7th, 2009, 14:17

Just finished taking the tri-wheel for a quick flight, and I LOVE it! The engine sounds and vc are fantastic, and taxiing around (at least in the tri-wheel) made me feel like I was speeding around the airport in a little MG. lol.

Great plane, and an amazing price. Thanks for the heads-up and for the other information.

***Roger*** · November 7th, 2009, 14:51

Anyone who doesn't have the Tailwind package as yet, this is the time to get it! This is one of the best GA available for FsX and the many repaints available must make it one of the most repainted GA aircraft in FsX!

**Lionheart** · November 7th, 2009, 15:00

Thanks Roger,

Thats very kind of you.

Originally Posted by DB93

Just finished taking the tri-wheel for a quick flight, and I LOVE it! The engine sounds and vc are fantastic, and taxiing around (at least in the tri-wheel) made me feel like I was speeding around the airport in a little MG. lol.

Great plane, and an amazing price. Thanks for the heads-up and for the other information.

George,

Thanks to Milton for the ground handling and some other bits of the airfile tuning. Milton was telling me some cool little things to do for the planes to handle better on the ground.

A plane like that should be pretty fast and nimble on the ground.

Bill

**Lionheart** · November 7th, 2009, 15:06

Originally Posted by DB93

With the Flight1 wrapper, whenever a newer version of the Kodiak is released, I can just redownload the Flight1 wrapper version through Lionheart's site, input my registration/purchase information, and the new version installs. I just want to be sure that purchasing from them isn't going to lock me out of any potential updates that Lionheart may make in the future.

Thanks again, for any information on this.

George,

I 'wish' the Installers did this. Presently, they only install what you download. They do not contact HQ and request updates, not even Flight1. You 'must' redownload the Flight1 installer as well when doing a 'full' and complete update.

I have started doing mini updates when I can. Look in the Updates sections of each plane on my website for any mini-updates.

Bill

**doublecool** · November 7th, 2009, 15:30

Best buy of 2009

**DB93** · November 7th, 2009, 15:30

Hi Lionheart,

yeah, I didn't think the installers worked that way, but I hadn't purchased through pcaviator before, so was concerned about the download link being for a limited time only. After Seadog explained that they would provide a new link in the case of product updates (specifically), and that they wouldn't keep charging me to get a new, updated version any time an update becomes available. I do like the mini-updates, though, as they make my initial concerns a non-issue.

Thanks again.

***Roger*** · November 7th, 2009, 16:38

Here's a couple of shots showing a recent repaint from grunau_baby

**Lionheart** · November 7th, 2009, 16:55

Originally Posted by DB93

Hi Lionheart,

yeah, I didn't think the installers worked that way, but I hadn't purchased through pcaviator before, so was concerned about the download link being for a limited time only. After Seadog explained that they would provide a new link in the case of product updates (specifically), and that they wouldn't keep charging me to get a new, updated version any time an update becomes available. I do like the mini-updates, though, as they make my initial concerns a non-issue.

Thanks again.

George, and anyone else. Just see me if you have any problems whatsoever. I always have workarounds.

When working with PCA and SimMarket, just explain that you need the new updates.

I have now started doing many of my updates in mini update packs do they do not have to usually be approached. Only huge updates will require redownloads.

Nice pics Roger!

The Abarth, painted by an owner somewhere in Germany that has a computer FILLED with Fiat and Lancia and Ferrari 'car show girls!!!!' :d

Bill

**jojohnson9** · November 7th, 2009, 17:27

Get this plane now!!! It is the best buy of all the many, many payware planes I have bought. 8 bucks is unbelievable for an addon aircraft of this incredible quality. And it is a ball to "fly".

**Tylerb59** · November 7th, 2009, 21:36

Great VC, Lionheart.

The 0-100mph acceleration is a bit incredible, is that accurate?

**DB93** · November 8th, 2009, 04:59

The more I fly this plane, the more I love it. After buying it and flying it around abit, I think it's safe to say that I think it's more than worth the regular price of $20 for any GA buff. At $8, this is an absolute steal! Only a few hours left to jump on this deal, so stop reading this and go buy yourself a great plane at an even better price before time runs out!!

**Lionheart** · November 8th, 2009, 05:20

Originally Posted by Tylerb59

Great VC, Lionheart.

The 0-100mph acceleration is a bit incredible, is that accurate?

It seems ridiculous, (ridiculous speed; Space Balls the movie), but if you go to YouTube, there are a couple of shots of Tailwinds taking off, and they do the same thing, and they are the real deal. So I guess they would accelerate a bit fast. Figure its a tiny plane with a big engine on the front. Its not going to accelerate like a 172.

Bill

**Zommoz** · November 8th, 2009, 05:39

Not only is it a great plane, but it comes with a free iPod!... oh yeah, and lunch! How could you ask for more? Yesterday, my real lunch cost more than this WONDERFUL add-on.

**b52bob** · November 8th, 2009, 07:19

Many thanks for a wonderful sim experience. Flying into Merced with the Ipod blasting was great.

Keep up the great work. Beautiful aircraft at a resonable price can't be beat.

God bless you

Bob

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