OT: James F. Chams

**Nick C** · September 13th, 2009, 12:01

Hey James, please, please take this the right way.

You don't have to put 'MR' before a name all the time, especially when it's a nickname. 99% of the time on forums, it's completely surplus to requirements and actually doesn't read correctly.

Don't shout at me, but after years of reading your posts, I felt it was time to say something and I hope it's taken in the positive way it's intended.

And just for the record, please call me 'Nick'. :d

**Nick C** · September 13th, 2009, 12:05

And just before you all attack me, I'm fully aware that my English language is far from perfect.

Edited to remove the glaring error!!

**Matt Wynn** · September 13th, 2009, 12:05

'Smoothie' or 'Matt' will do fine for me

Nick thanks for voicing what a few of us have noticed, As he said James no offense is meant so don't take it the wrong way, have a beer on us :ernae:

**Nick C** · September 13th, 2009, 12:11

Anybody who's on the receiving end of my Skype messages, knows that I can be quite inventive with my spelling...Ask Ian!

**SkippyBing** · September 13th, 2009, 12:21

I'm fully aware that my English lit is far from perfect

Errr.. shouldn't that be your English Lang? I'll get my coat....

**Nick C** · September 13th, 2009, 12:23

ROFl. See what I mean. :d

**Lionheart** · September 13th, 2009, 12:24

ooops...

and I was calling Nick 'Sir Churchill'.. arrghh.. :d

MCDesigns · September 13th, 2009, 12:46

Originally Posted by Lionheart

ooops...

and I was calling Nick 'Sir Churchill'.. arrghh.. :d

Would that be "Saint" Nick at Xmas?

**IanP** · September 13th, 2009, 12:50

Wasn't Churchill a Lord by the end anyway?

**dswo** · September 13th, 2009, 12:57

I'm happy to be just David.

JamesChams · September 13th, 2009, 13:15

I find you all funny...

Nick,

You already told me that .... and I have been refering to you as just Nick (or in some cases as Mr. Nick C. to others, when I recommend they talk to you about FSX Settings, Ordering a Custom System(s), or how to take good screen shots

). But, as far as others are concerned, I try to treat people with respect as I would also like to be treated (I'm "OLD School" :mixedsmi

. However, as you already know from our many past experiences, not everyone does that, especially to older gentlmen and some young ladies. So, a certain level of formality, respect, and professionalism is "REQUIRED" when dealing with Business', their staff, or (strangers) people in general. I choose to be formal, since most of us are NOT firmiliars, and it doesn't seem to take much for people to cross that line very easily from respect to disrespect. So, since you requested that for yourself, I have no problem doing so.

However, I expect developers and other professionals to refer to me as Mr. James Chams, yet many of them call me James; even though I've already stated that; yet you DON'T see me posting threads demanding that they do things my way, right?

So, what is the real reason for your grievances’?
(Or, As you say in Britian, "Why are you ticked?" and, As we say in America, "What's your Beef?")

***Henry*** · September 13th, 2009, 13:22

Originally Posted by JamesChams

I find you all funny...

So, what is the real reason for your grievances’?
(Or, As you say in Britian, "Why are you ticked?" and, As we say in America, "What's your Beef?")

James
dont worry he is confused by
my English Grammar also

LOL
H

**Boomer** · September 13th, 2009, 13:29

I hear ya James...

In a professional environment I refer to my superiors as sir/ma'am & my subordinates with the proper prefix & surname. Moreover I expect the same from them.
However this is not a professional environment. Here we are all equals sharing a common passion.

Sooo.... Just call me Bob if you please

**Bjoern** · September 13th, 2009, 13:31

James, we're a pub here and not a business.
Hence please no "Mr.", "Mrs.", "Ms.","Sir","Ma'am" or anything similar; we're all just "pal", "bud", "lad","mate","dude" here.

MCDesigns · September 13th, 2009, 13:31

Originally Posted by Boomer

I hear ya James...

In a professional environment I refer to my superiors as sir/ma'am & my subordinates with the proper prefix & surname. Moreover I expect the same from them.
However this is not a professional environment. Here we are all equals sharing a common passion.

Sooo.... Just call me Bob if you please

I'd love to tell you what I call my superiors at work.....but I can't here, LOL.

**Boomer** · September 13th, 2009, 13:34

Originally Posted by MCDesigns

I'd love to tell you what I call my superiors at work.....but I can't here, LOL.

Probably the same thing my subordinates call me LOL

**IanP** · September 13th, 2009, 13:38

As long as you don't mean grammer wheel be fine.

As for why people don't refer to each other as "Mister" or "Sir" all the time, the simple answer is that this is not a professional environment. It's a place where we can meet as equals (most of the time) and hence the majority of formality isn't really needed.

I get "a little narked" when some salesman on the phone calls me "Ian". No, I'm Mr. Pearson while you're trying to sell me something I don't want, yet the Chief Instructor at the flying school I'm using to requalify is "Andy" (not even Andrew) and the Examiner is "Bob". That's very much a professional environment, yet the formality is unnecessary for the most part. I don't call my boss at work "Sir" any more. He's got a big enough ego as it is and doesn't need any more!

As I said before. This isn't a professional environment. It's a gathering of equals - in theory at least. Therefore in my opinion, sir, madam, Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms or "The Right Dishonourable" really are not necessary.

By the way. I'm Ian or "Oi! You!". I respond to either.

**Meshman** · September 13th, 2009, 13:43

Originally Posted by Boomer

Sooo.... Just call me Bob if you please

Hi Bob if you please!

After driving a truck for 16 years, there isn't much I haven't been called. I just prefer not to be called late to dinner... :ernae:

**Matt Wynn** · September 13th, 2009, 13:48

i call my superiors at work Ruperts, bloody bunch of good for nothing career enhancement types

'oi you!' ^ as you say we're all equal, some of us in sheer lunacy, some in flying either way yeah equal

**Nick C** · September 13th, 2009, 13:56

James, my point was that this isn't about old school English.

Mr Churchill is fine, but you wouldn't call me Mr Nick Churchill when speaking to me. It's either 'Nick' or 'Mr Churchill'. You also don't add the term 'Mr" before a nickname. So if my nickname is 'Fartypants', you wouldn't address me 'Mr Fartypants'.

'Nick C' was an nickname I created for forums in the old days when I felt it wasn't safe to give too much information about yourself (a ling time ago). The letter C was just to differentiate me, say from 'Nick N' (Needham).

As Ian said, this is an informal environment, if anybody calls me Mr I'll presume their either selling me something or it's one of my old strict teachers, coming back to haunt me!

I certainly don't have a grievance, I just thought I'd mention it as a light subject matter.

**Warrant** · September 13th, 2009, 14:11

Funny thread!

James, you adressed me once as Mr Warrant. Warrant is short for my current rank: Chief Warrant Officer (though i'm joining the officers corps within a few weeks). It is very incorrect (at least in my country) to add Mr in front of a rank.

So please.... either Warrant or René

and regarding this:

As Ian said, this is an informal environment, if anybody calls me Mr I'll presume their either selling me something or it's one of my old strict teachers, coming back to haunt me!

...i could not agree more :ernae:

***jmig*** · September 13th, 2009, 16:12

You can call me jmig. you can call me jmiguez. You can call me John. You can call me Johnny. Just don't call me Johnson. That's not my name so I won't know who you are talking to...