Mig 21 F-13 by Jan Moravec

**PHo17** · July 1st, 2009, 08:10

for both fs2004 and FSX is here: http://www.flightsim.cz/index.php?lan=1

**SteveB** · July 1st, 2009, 09:06

Oooooh dloading now Thanks for the Heads up mate.

Steve

***ian elliot*** · July 1st, 2009, 09:16

A single seater with a VC at long last :ernae:
cheers ian

**Lazerbeak** · July 1st, 2009, 10:30

Let me say, this is the best MiG-21, payware or freeware, to be released yet, and it's something I've been dreaming for. The textures are beautiful, and it looks easy to paint, and the VC is fantastic. The model is great, with so many little details and eye-candies (even you can open the engine and pick your loadouts). It is too shiny though, but a quick fix with MDLMat makes it perfect for me.

It is a challenge to start and many systems are modelled. Great immersion here, you get a good look at how it is to fly a Fishbed.

This is a keeper for sure.

**SteveB** · July 1st, 2009, 10:34

A challange too start , it's definatly Homer proof cos I can't get it too fire up lol

**Flyboy208** · July 1st, 2009, 11:19

Awesome! Will post some screenies later tonight ...

Mike

**Flyboy208** · July 1st, 2009, 12:50

Having startup issues a s well, and I DID read the documentation...

Mike :isadizzy:

***TARPSBird*** · July 1st, 2009, 13:06

PHo17, thanks for the heads-up and Lazerbeak thanks for the quick description. Got it d/l'ing right now.

***falcon409*** · July 1st, 2009, 18:35

Originally Posted by Flyboy208

Having startup issues a s well, and I DID read the documentation...Mike :isadizzy:

Yep, same here. . .beautiful plane, terrific VC but no startee, lol. A few more times through the documentation and then. . ."file 13".

**VFR Alexander** · July 1st, 2009, 18:38

http://img6.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=number1n.jpg

14 pics on how to start it up.

Just press what is outlined by the blue, and if there are other instructions, just follow them.
Hope it helps.

-Alex

***falcon409*** · July 1st, 2009, 19:35

Thank you sir. . .I am flying.

**Naismith** · July 1st, 2009, 19:42

Is there no manual to assist us?

***falcon409*** · July 1st, 2009, 20:20

Originally Posted by Naismith

Is there no manual to assist us?

There is one in the download along with a written description by the author on starting the aircraft. Be that as it may, the link from VFR Alexander is much more simplistic and while I read the documents and looked over the screens of the cockpit with numbers in place to reference the descriptions, those simple screenshots quickly got the aircraft started and me in the air.

One minor criticism. . . I understand the need for realism, however I don't read or speak Russian. . .cockpit tooltips in English please.

The VC is a gem and if I understood Russian, moving around and getting acquainted with the dials and switches would be much more enjoyable. . .I'll deal with it. Sounds are great and the feel with trackIR is marvelous.

The aircraft seemed mushy to me however. On take off it had plenty of speed, but pulling up to a steep climb only made it feel like the tail section wanted to go back home, so a shallow take off seems to be the way to go until the airplane decides on it's own to climb a little more. The only time it felt like it wanted to stay airborne was if I was at full mil or AB. Especially on approach, it very much resembles the F-104 in that slower (normal) approach speeds were out of the question. . .stay on it until the wheels touch down, then drag chute and brakes and it stops relatively quickly. Landing speeds were above 200kias.
Again, in the air, the airplane just seemed to want to wallow around rather than sit up and fly right, lol.

It'll take a bit to master the startup (love all the ground equipment, chocks, engine dolly, covers, etc.), but that'll come with practice and the things I found wrong with the FDE could simply be my lack of knowledge with the aircraft. At least I got it to start so it won't go in the trash just yet.

**CG_1976** · July 1st, 2009, 20:26

Originally Posted by SteveB

A challange too start , it's definatly Homer proof cos I can't get it too fire up lol

Stallin cant start this mig

??? Hummmmmmmmm, lets see if Castro can

.

**Naismith** · July 1st, 2009, 20:30

Having got it started, I'm not to keen on turning it off again. lol

***OBIO*** · July 1st, 2009, 20:37

Originally Posted by Naismith

Having got it started, I'm not to keen on turning it off again. lol

I've owned a couple cars like that.

OBIO

***fsafranek*** · July 1st, 2009, 20:42

Originally Posted by VFR Alexander

http://img6.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=number1n.jpg

14 pics on how to start it up.

Just press what is outlined by the blue, and if there are other instructions, just follow them.
Hope it helps.

-Alex

Большое спасибо (Spaseebo balshoye)
:ernae:

**Lazerbeak** · July 1st, 2009, 22:24

Originally Posted by falcon409

The aircraft seemed mushy to me however. On take off it had plenty of speed, but pulling up to a steep climb only made it feel like the tail section wanted to go back home, so a shallow take off seems to be the way to go until the airplane decides on it's own to climb a little more. The only time it felt like it wanted to stay airborne was if I was at full mil or AB. Especially on approach, it very much resembles the F-104 in that slower (normal) approach speeds were out of the question. . .stay on it until the wheels touch down, then drag chute and brakes and it stops relatively quickly. Landing speeds were above 200kias.
Again, in the air, the airplane just seemed to want to wallow around rather than sit up and fly right, lol.

While I'm not at all an expert on flying MiG's, just going by what I've read, the flight model appears to me true to life. The MiG-21 was a fighter but was designed to excel as a high-speed interceptor. It had a fame for difficult control, and you really had to struggle to get it to "behave" due to a small delta-wing and oddly-designed fueltanks. Like you said, it was very much like the F-104. This is especially true in early models like this one.

Now again, this is just my observation based on my very (very) limited knowledge, so maybe I'm wrong.

**kurt190** · July 1st, 2009, 23:56

If you just want to jump in and fly then remark out the following line from the panel.cfg:

gauge32=MiG21F13!Automat motoru, 0 , 0 , 10 , 10

This will stop the engine shutdown and the start procedure being defined by the gauge.

kurt

***OBIO*** · July 2nd, 2009, 00:34

Thanks for the tip Kurt. I was going to ask if anyone knew how to get around the PHD level of knowledge needed to start this plane. Looks amazing. Would be a shame if it saw more use as a static display model than a flying model.

OBIO

**Naismith** · July 2nd, 2009, 01:09

Originally Posted by kurt190

If you just want to jump in and fly then remark out the following line from the panel.cfg:

gauge32=MiG21F13!Automat motoru, 0 , 0 , 10 , 10

This will stop the engine shutdown and the start procedure being defined by the gauge.

kurt

But where is the fun in that......... Give me hours and hours of head scratching any day lol
Thanks for the tip. :isadizzy:

**gribouil** · July 2nd, 2009, 02:03

Many thanks for this tip kurt190!
That really is a nice airplane

**VaporZ** · July 2nd, 2009, 02:45

Wow !!!!
Thanks for the Tip Gentlemen !!!

This "Dark Star" of the Six Day War is superb, for Fs9 and Freeware
with a full VC.

and

the opportunities of repaints are .... "obvious" .... to say the least.

Well done FlightSim.Cz !

VaporZ

**VaporZ** · July 2nd, 2009, 02:53

Here is a fine screenshot from "FSScreens.Cz"
from Caslav Air Base at the end of the "sixties"

VaporZ

**Blackbird686** · July 2nd, 2009, 04:03

Originally Posted by Naismith

But where is the fun in that......... Give me hours and hours of head scratching any day lol
Thanks for the tip. :isadizzy:

Also, me thinks that if you comment that gauge out... it takes the pilot away. My copy doesn't have a driver in the seat.

Beautiful model and VC though, and a kick to fly!

BB686:USA-flag:

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