Jan Visser F86

**jimjones** · October 17th, 2008, 02:52

Check out this web site for an upcoming f86. Freeware!!!!!

http://sectionf8.com.

A manual supposedly is available but when I downloaded it, it was invalid.

FSX version comes later.

**deimos256** · October 17th, 2008, 03:18

is it even out for fs9 yet? I heard about this a while ago, FSX version im sure will come "eventually"

**lifejogger** · October 17th, 2008, 03:55

Free??? That is going to be free? WOW!!!!!!:ernae:

***Panther_99FS*** · October 17th, 2008, 04:11

Originally Posted by deimos256

is it even out for fs9 yet? I heard about this a while ago, FSX version im sure will come "eventually"

Release will be for FS2004 first - that was the original concept.

Then an FSX will release will come later. Do NOT expect an immediate FSX release after FS2004. There will be months of FSX development...

**deimos256** · October 17th, 2008, 04:27

oh im sure we wont see it for FSX anytime soon, i actually forgot all about it

***Panther_99FS*** · October 17th, 2008, 04:31

Originally Posted by deimos256

oh im sure we wont see it for FSX anytime soon, i actually forgot all about it

You're quite correct here. The F-86 just like the MAAM Avenger were both conceived to be FS2004 products. FSX development was a later decision...

**jimjones** · October 17th, 2008, 06:52

Although the manual can't be downloaded, there is info on the panel that can be viewed. Enough research has apparently been done at this point to identify what will be in FSX and FS9 only, since reference is made to both sims.

At first look those screenshots seem to be fsx quality yet there is no apparent external self shadowing. Mighty great looking external pics if they are only fs9. Seems like there is rippling in the side panels similar to the acceleration P51, which is one great looking plane.

The release is said to be imminent, whatever that means.:costumes:

**deimos256** · October 17th, 2008, 06:56

imminent means that its definately coming, as far as a date? more than likely "its done when its done"

**Tweek** · October 17th, 2008, 08:05

Originally Posted by deimos256

imminent means that its definately coming, as far as a date? more than likely "its done when its done"

Imminent means 'very soon'.

***Panther_99FS*** · October 17th, 2008, 08:29

Originally Posted by jimjones

Although the manual can't be downloaded,

Just click on the "manual" tab at the top & you can download it :mixedsmi:

**Pips** · October 17th, 2008, 13:44

It'll be interesting to see how it compares in detail to an actual RAAF CA-27 Sabre (serial no:A94-983) currently undergoing restoration to flying condition at Temora Aviation Museum, NSW, Australia.

See here for details: http://www.aviationmuseum.com.au/aircraft/raafsabre.cfm

**kilo delta** · October 26th, 2008, 07:54

It's now available to d/l on Avsim..... sf86ef.zip

**Pepere** · October 26th, 2008, 08:40

I,m downloading it now. I,ll try it in FSX and let you know how works!

David

**JT8D-9A** · October 26th, 2008, 09:21

*seems* to work in FSX.
I only renamed the main texture folder to texture.shared and placed a texture.cfg in every AC texture folder ([fltsim]fallback.1=..\texture.shared).
And i changed the alpha channel of the textures f86jv_glas_vcanopy.bmp, f86jv_glas_vcleft.bmp and f86jv_glas_vcmid.bmp to dark gray.

It looks fantastic. I hope that all systems are working properly. I haven't read any readme or manual:redf:

**Javis** · October 26th, 2008, 09:59

Originally Posted by Pips

It'll be interesting to see how it compares in detail to an actual RAAF CA-27 Sabre (serial no:A94-983)

Does not compare that much, yet, Pips.Please wait a while until i have the chance to produce a proper looking CAC Sabre. Sure's on the list, you know ! :mixedsmi:

Cheers,
Jan

***Roger*** · October 26th, 2008, 10:42

Originally Posted by Nils

*seems* to work in FSX.
I only renamed the main texture folder to texture.shared and placed a texture.cfg in every AC texture folder ([fltsim]fallback.1=..\texture.shared).
And i changed the alpha channel of the textures f86jv_glas_vcanopy.bmp, f86jv_glas_vcleft.bmp and f86jv_glas_vcmid.bmp to dark gray.

It looks fantastic. I hope that all systems are working properly. I haven't read any readme or manual:redf:

Hi Nils,
I assume that you flew it in Dx9c?

**JT8D-9A** · October 26th, 2008, 11:00

Originally Posted by Roger

Hi Nils,
I assume that you flew it in Dx9c?

That's correct, Roger.
In DX10 mode only the VC will work and a few other parts.

***Roger*** · October 26th, 2008, 11:58

What ever I do with DXT1bmp I can't get the alpha to keep a colour change (ie to dark grey) in the texture f86jv_glas_vcanopy.bmp ...It always reverts to white.:isadizzy:

***Navy Chief*** · October 26th, 2008, 12:46

WOW! Trying to download now, but is understandably busy.

NC

**Pepere** · October 26th, 2008, 12:47

A FPS killer but really awesome. I broke the gear though. Can I get some maintenance over here please!

**JT8D-9A** · October 26th, 2008, 13:29

Originally Posted by Roger

What ever I do with DXT1bmp I can't get the alpha to keep a colour change (ie to dark grey) in the texture f86jv_glas_vcanopy.bmp ...It always reverts to white.:isadizzy:

PM me your email and i can send you the files.

Regarding the performance.. i think the smoke and exhaust effects are eating FPS and the Wingtip effects are done by FSX by default.
I converted all BMPs without an alpha to DXT1/DDS and all with an alpha to DXT5/DDS and i changed the file extensions in the model from ".BMP" to ".DDS".
But it's a FS9 model...

But really fantastic work! Many thanks to all involved!

**Pepere** · October 26th, 2008, 13:38

Nice. FPS killer is the exhaust. remove the fx files and it helps a lot. you'll have to restart FSX to stop the fx files from working?

Nils - maybe you can get the makers permission to download those dds etc files to here at SOH... A thought!

David

**Bjoern** · October 26th, 2008, 14:27

Providing that Nils uploads those .dds' here at the Outhouse, I will gladly give the Sabre a try.

Dave, the Sabre's aircraft.cfg should have a [Smoke] section. Just remove the effect file's name from it and you should be good to go.

**Bruce Thompson** · October 26th, 2008, 14:37

Thanks to Jan and Team for this incredible aircraft.

:ernae:

Nils thanks for the info, I also have it working in FSX.
I think you are right about the smoke effect, I wiil try it with that removed.

**DaveKDEN** · October 26th, 2008, 14:41

Originally Posted by Nils

*seems* to work in FSX.
I only renamed the main texture folder to texture.shared and placed a texture.cfg in every AC texture folder ([fltsim]fallback.1=..\texture.shared).
And i changed the alpha channel of the textures f86jv_glas_vcanopy.bmp, f86jv_glas_vcleft.bmp and f86jv_glas_vcmid.bmp to dark gray.

It looks fantastic. I hope that all systems are working properly. I haven't read any readme or manual:redf:

How do you go about changing the alpha channel on the VC canopy files? I can't see through the VC canopy textures at all (they display the interior reflection of the cockpit, but as a solid color instead of transparent). I have DXTBmp.exe, but haven't ever messed with alpha channels.