The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**lefty** · June 18th, 2020, 23:26

Thanks Robert.
Here's a neat parasol (only just !)...

**lefty** · June 19th, 2020, 06:45

Gipsy-engined variant of something more usually radial - European.

**pomme homme** · June 19th, 2020, 08:01

I'd suggest one of the Morane-Saulnier MS.340 series if not for the fact that the tail, wing, undercarriage and wing strut arrangement doesn't seem to match. In fact, as I've amended this post I've convinced myself that I'm not even warm!

**lefty** · June 19th, 2020, 13:37

We'll not keep this lingering on too long - it's not French. Close, though...

**fabulousfour** · June 20th, 2020, 01:30

Mike, is it possible that the radial engined variants had a different tail?

**lefty** · June 20th, 2020, 01:34

Indeed, Robert - I think you have picked up the right scent !

**lefty** · June 20th, 2020, 06:10

Right, Robert has given this a miss, surprising as I was sure he was on the right track. It has been over 24hrs so time to move on.

This is yet another effort from Stampe/Vertongen/Renard - it's the SV18M, redesigned powerplant and tail unit amongst other things. Later altered yet again to a single-seater.

OH, please, but a glass of beer for anyone who can tell me how on earth anyone accessed the front cockpit of this machine !

**fabulousfour** · June 20th, 2020, 06:35

Sorry, Mike.

I had the idea that you posted just another Stampe and thought about the SV/RSV.18, however I didn't want to "play ping-pong" and hoped that somebody else could solve the mystery.

Concerning the forward access, maybe there is a hatch on the right site of the aircraft?

Since it is OH and to put things right I'll take the baton and post the next challenge.

No need to look at aerofiles.

**fabulousfour** · June 20th, 2020, 12:51

This one-off had its first flight in 1930 but crashed two years later.

***Moses03*** · June 20th, 2020, 20:28

Think this is the Jones Wonga. Also have a photo labeled "Jack Jones" that looks just like it (attached).

**fabulousfour** · June 20th, 2020, 22:41

Congrats, Kevin, it is indeed the Jones Wonga VH-ULZ, the first Australian monoplane motorized by the first Australian manufactured engine (Harkness Hornet).

Thought that this bird would last longer.

Here is another view of the Wonga and some more information about it at pprune:

https://www.pprune.org/aviation-hist...aeroplane.html

Over to Texas.

***Moses03*** · June 21st, 2020, 08:57

Thanks Robert.

Something a little easier.

**musterpilot** · June 21st, 2020, 14:47

Qantas Hanger Longreach Queensland

***Moses03*** · June 21st, 2020, 15:04

Location is correct musterpilot! Now can you or anyone else name the aeroplane?

**cthornburg** · June 21st, 2020, 16:26

Southern Cross?

Chris

***Moses03*** · June 22nd, 2020, 05:09

If you mean Southern Cloud, then that is correct as the photo is an Avro 618 X.

**cthornburg** · June 22nd, 2020, 06:59

No I meant Cross so Open House I guess

Chris

**wout** · June 23rd, 2020, 04:53

This one-off first flew 50+ years before the NXcub.

**fabulousfour** · June 23rd, 2020, 10:25

Could this be the Welsh Rabbit B?

**lefty** · June 23rd, 2020, 22:34

I think Robert has nailed it here, but may I suggest that it is the A model - that looks awfully like a single-seater to me !

**fabulousfour** · June 24th, 2020, 01:43

That's why I put the question mark.

Quite mysterious this mystery.
The Rabbit A is a single seater but has a conventional gear and the Rabbit B has a tricycle gear like the mystery but is (at least according to aerofiles) a twin seater. And I can't imagine where this tiny machine could have enough room for a passenger.

Except for the gear the mystery doesn't look very different to the Welsh Rabbit A which I found here

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...=1#post1110305

**wout** · June 24th, 2020, 01:52

Sorry for the delay in replying. Had some problems entering the site.

I have her as the Rabbit B two-seater with Continental )-200-A engine. The earlier Rabbit A was indeed a single-seater, but with a conventional (tailwheel) undercarriage and 65hp Continent al A65 engine (reportedly later replaced by a Continenat A80).
Both A and B model had the same N3599G registration. The A was (AFAIK) later donated to the EAA Museum, so it seems the B was not a rebuilt, but new-built. From NTSB records I noted the B was damaged beyond reoair after a landing accident in November 1965.
Attached a pic of the Rabbbit A.

The baton is placed in the very capable hands of fabulousfour