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Thread: The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

  1. #18926
    A little more help toward the answer, peut-être? This was the designer's second aeroplane. The first was produced in 1924. This was produced in 1948. It was powered by a Volkswagen engine.

  2. #18927
    Well, I could provide all the technical specifications for this little Sidi-Bel-Abbès built creature, which the press described as 'part aeroplane, part motor glider', but I suspect that it won't help. However in the absence of an earlier identification, I'll let it run until the end of the day before revealing all!

  3. #18928
    Sorry, Mike, somehow just can't lay my hands on my Encyclopaedia of Algerian Home-Built Aircraft.........

  4. #18929
    Maybe the Ligreau Gl.4 built by Georges Ligreau?

  5. #18930
    Well done, Robert. That's the gal!

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    well done fabulousfour. It proves you know your classics
    Now pomme homme only needs to disclose the technics of the GL-4 and donate his copy of the book Lefty was looking for to him.

  7. #18932
    Never heard of that plane before today, Walter.

    It were just Mikes' clues that led me to the solution.

    I finally found reference to the Ligreau GL.4 at secretprojects where three aircraft are mentioned, the Avionette from 1924, a transformed Avia 152A and the GL.4.

    https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/for...?topic=18781.0

    Now, assuming that the GL.4 was the fourth constructed aircraft of Georges Ligreau, which one is missing?

    Here is my next mystery, a close and unbiased look might help.
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  8. #18933
    I can't, Mike, oblige you with the specific book you require but I can recommend Pierre Jarrige's books - L'Aviation Légère en Algérie 1909-1939 and L'Aviation Légère en Algérie 1945-1962 - and his website (https://www.librairie-pied-noir.com/...rie-diaporamas). The latter is the source of my second photograph, which M. Jarrige has failed to recognise as the Ligreau GL.4 and captions as 'Vers 1956 à Maison-Blanche, un avion d'origine inconnue construit par un amateur oranais', despite his website elsewhere containing a reference to and description of the GL.4 (q.v. http://chezpeps.free.fr/0/Jarrige/No...amateur-2.html).

  9. #18934
    Thanks Mike - fascinating indeed - I'll just nip down to W.H.Smith's on Monday and pick up a copy of those..........

  10. #18935
    The aircraft was built a few dozen times, the plane in the photo was the last survivor then.
    It differed slightly in appearance to the original type and crashed fatally about 50 years ago.

  11. #18936
    From a well known company whose fame is based mainly on only one aircraft type.

  12. #18937
    Think of a big, long-legged, black and white bird...

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    Hi fabulousfour
    A wild guess, the Fieseler F-5R?

  14. #18939
    It is the Fieseler F 5R HB-ELF which found its way to Switzerland at the end of the war and received a canopy later on!
    Over to you, Walter

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    Thank you fabulousfour. Your description of the brird that brings new life did it.
    New challenge is a high wing type in flight (I also have a better picture of her on the ground)
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    With some imagination you could say this is number 4 in line.

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    Léger JCL-01 (I wonder if it is related?)

    Edit: yes it was, the designer following in his father's footsteps!

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    hi pomme homme
    Very absolutely and without doubt, the Léger JCL-01 (F-PVQX) by Jean-Claude, son of René of RL-1, RL-2 and RL-3 fame.
    First flown 3 May 1975 and 65hp Walter Mikron II engine.
    Wonder why he deviated from the family tradition as she is not a parasol wing type.

    Your turn, please

  19. #18944
    Thank you, Walter.

    Perhaps, unlike his dad, he didn't like al fresco flying. Take away the enclosed cockpit structure and, I suspect, you'd have a parasol wing monoplane.

    Now here's a real parasol wing monoplan, although it's rather deshabillé.


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  21. #18946
    I'll give this clue quietly in an endeavour to avoid waking lefty!

    You'd be right to think that this little aeroplane is obscure. A 'one-off', it was designed and built, in his garage in a small town north of Paris, by a former employee of Maurice Finat. Powered by a 30hp Mengin motor, it dates from the late 1940s. I'm afraid that I don't know much of its career or what became of it.

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    Hi pommehomme
    Based on your info on the Mengin engine, could it be the Geffroy (Geoffroy) homebuilt first flown August 1948.
    Have no idea, however, whether that meets the configuration in your photo

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    Spot on, Walter. It is the Geffroy Monoplane of 1948. Do you have any information about its flying career and/or fate?

    Anyhow, it's now over to you - but you might want to avoid posting another French light aeroplane and the risk of incurring someone's wrath!

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    Sorry pommehomme. All I got in my scratchbook were the name, year and engine, plus now a photo thanks to you
    Will post in a few moments and this will not be a post-war parasol wing type from France.

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    A small V-tailed pusher. resembling the ..............
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