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    Hi Lefty,
    I would have preferred that you had just said, Gaucher RG-75 correct and let me post a new one.
    Now you challenge me in explaining why I call it the Gaucher RG-75 instead of SECAT S.5. I am not an aviation historian, but I will try. The designation RG... comes from Mr. Rémy Gaucher who got involved with the SECAT designs after WW2.
    Before WW2 SECAT brought out the S-4 Mouette (which I understand was a single-seater) and it may have been registered as F-W 134 in the prototype series (don`t ask me why). although I also saw this aircraft described as the S-6 Mouette no. 01.
    When the post-war F-P.... series started there was an S-4 registered F-PAAM and quoted as no. 002 and maybe this was in fact the 01 after rebuilt/restoration. F-PAAM is also reported as RG-60 (for Rémy Gaucher 60hp?)
    I understand that the S-5 (a two-seater) appeared AFTER the war and that in fact two were built. The first one was F-WCDS (F-BCDS) and is quoted as no. 01 and this aircraft is described as a SECAT S-5. It later went to the F-P... register as F-PIIC still as SECAT S.5. The second examples was F-WBBT and I have a picture (the same one you posted?) where it clearly says SECAT RG-75T on the tail. (Rémy Gaucher 75hp).
    To make things easy, there also is a Chatelain AC-4 of 1948 by Mr. Armand Chatelain which is reported as replica of the SECAT S-6 Mouette. The accompanying pictures in the article show one as F-W 134 (this would indicate it is the original) and on the second picture shows an aircraft without registration visible, so that maybe the true AC-4 which possibly never had an F-P... registration. I donot discount the possibility that the AC-4 was in fact a rebuilt of the S-6.
    Are you still with me?
    Of course all comments, remarks and/or insults from fellow forumers are welcome.

    New one will follow to-morrow.

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    A light airplane of a different kind

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    This is one of the three manned prototypes of the Raduga KS-1 Kometa. First flight, Jan 1951. Raduga was the missile develpment branch of MiG hence the scaled down looking MiG 15. Later unmanned cruise missile versions were launched from Tu-4s (in background) & Tu-16s and surface to air.

    Feeling good about this one so moving along here as I will be away until late in the day tomorrow. A nice little floater-

  4. #3179
    Before tackling Moses' floater, let me just thank Wout for his erudite explanation - exactly what I wanted ! Literature on this period is scarce indeed, and the vagaries of French designations a constant source of bewilderment when relying solely on Janes, which I have long realised is not always as accurate as one might imagine. Lord knows where you get all this material - the Wout archives must be substantial indeed.

  5. #3180
    Eighteen years after building this flying boat, the company submitted two designs to the military. One of them a float plane...

  6. #3181
    This company is very well known. Just not for aircraft exactly...

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    Sorry, been a bit out of it this weekend with lots of rugby (Scotland won at last !) curling etc etc.

    This would be the EDO Malolo, I think ?

  8. #3183
    That would be it Sir. Over to Scotland-

  9. #3184
    Thank you - what's this ?

  10. #3185
    Looks Rohrbachish and a bit Dorniery. Probably some Czech number. Bloimey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses03 View Post
    Looks Rohrbachish and a bit Dorniery.
    I agree entirely. But it ain't German. Oh, by the way, it's a fighter...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty View Post
    I agree entirely. But it ain't German. Oh, by the way, it's a fighter...........
    The Barfallonyew GAG-01 -developed as a low-cost "heavy" fighter lost it's only combat encounter to.... termites..

    what's with all the windows in a 'fighter'? did they carry a platoon of infantry with Mausers?

    (why DO they allow the inmates to have all these aviation reference books anyway?)

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    Lefty and Moses are coming up with some real beaut's lately.

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    Don't want to give this away yet - but it was produced by one of aviation's most famous names.

    I like Rob's stab at it - but he was wrong about the termites - this is an all-metal craft !

    And his infantry platoon used Lewis guns, not Mausers...........

  15. #3190
    I've run out of steam here. Anyone else?

  16. #3191
    My white flag has been wavin' since Lefty posted it...LOL

  17. #3192
    Well I didn't expect that one to last long at all. It's the Blériot Bl 137 from 1931.

    Right - this is another floater - well, sort of.......

  18. #3193
    Frankenstein FR-1. (Looks like a hacked up Bellanca with a homemade Loening style belly pontoon and Curtiss Robin wings.)

  19. #3194
    You're not far off the mark here....but Dr F. didn't have any input. Made by a company with other aquatic flyers to follow....

  20. #3195
    That must be the Columbia CAL-1 Triad. Like the previous EDO, the firm didn't resurface again until WWII.

  21. #3196
    Spot on with the Triad, Kevin. I said DHC2pilot was getting warm - according to Wikipedia, one of the founders of Columbia was Giuseppe Mario Bellanca.....

  22. #3197
    One more from the flying boat bin. This time a floater of size!

  23. #3198
    It flew, and flew very well...

  24. #3199
    Hmm...gone quiet. Not even a peep from the floatmaster. Who is going to flinch first?

  25. #3200
    Time to reveal. Everyone has been scared off the last couple of days! The big boat is a Bastianelli PRB 1. From Italy circa 1920.

    Here is an easy one to recover with-

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