Maybe this will help as the photo is a bit dark. Less than 10 came off the line.
Maybe this will help as the photo is a bit dark. Less than 10 came off the line.
Wright engine and first flown in 1923...
It seems at least 5 manufacturers had a go at building the Douglas DT-2, and with several modifications. I'll plump for the Naval Aircraft Factory DT-5. (or is it DT-4 ?)
Good show Mike, it is the NAF DT-4 torpedo bomber.
Something grainy and pushy.....
Well, this might be the General Aircraft GAL.33 Cagnet
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Notice how Lefty pulled the most grainy photo he could find for it. You would almost think typical Russian photography at first glance.
I have grainier ones than that.........gX takes the baton -
Some color and another type of aircraft for a wee change
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Well, that was an interesting morning search
However, it's the Rotorfly R-33
http://en.avia.pro/blog/vertolyot-ro...teristiki-foto
and while we are on the subject... (co-axial fling-wing things)
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" anon.
“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.” -Albert Einstein
Nice find srgalahadYour turn of course!
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Thanks gX!
I posted another at the same time - running a bit short of months in a day and I was sure once I saw your pic was on the page (flipped)
It is really too easy, but the similarity added interest.
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" anon.
“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.” -Albert Einstein
everyone hates helicopters?
OK this and the previous share several details...
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" anon.
“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.” -Albert Einstein
Well, I know.But I don't want to play "ping pong".
B.t.w. I stepped on the R-33 when I first found this one.
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I think Rob's probably right to a certain extent, in that not many of the old lags here are helicopter specialists, but that's no reason not to post them. I certainly don't hate choppers, and find them quite fascinating, but just don't know a lot about 'em !
Also, there appear to be very few serious books specifically about rotorcraft - if you know of one, tell me.......
Go for it, gX - I had a brief look, thinking it was maybe- but if it is, couldn't find it !
hi srgalahad
I think the whirlybird in your pic is called the Rotorfly (the 2005 prototype), but nowadays known as the Rotor International RI-30 Eaglet. A product of the Kamerton Design Bureau, assoctiated with the Kamov Helicopter company, hence the co-axial rotors in Kamov tradition. AFAIK there were plans (ca.2010) for a German/Russian j/v with production in Russia (kits) marketing in Germany. but donot know the present status.
JAWA 2015
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If you have a copy going cheap, Gx..........Originally Posted by giruXX
JAWA 2015
.... and the rest, it seems! The 'top whack' is in the region of US $1600. Is such a price due to the fact that whilst the print run gets into triple figures, it doesn't get out of them? Presumably it's not available to purchase as a download.
Occasionally I will price JAWA for the years 1925 to 1935 but they are so expensive I mostly give up!
The reason is that JAWA is a specialist book bought mainly by institutions - many of my old ones are from Government libraries, armed forces etc. Very few individuals will buy one. Like all complex low-print-run items, they are very expensive.
The irony is that the 'middle ages' (i.e. 60's and 70's issues, are very cheap, but go further back and the prices start to rise again. I have 1926,31,34,37 and 38, but decided enough was enough !
It also has to be said that the early Jane's were not nearly as comprehensive as they became later, and tend to feature only major manufacturers.
Anyway, enough of Jane's - where's Wout's next mystery ????
Kumertau Kamov Rotorfly / RI 30 Eaglet
http://www.helistart.com/helicopters...Kamov/Rotorfly
"The machine was presented to the public for the first time at the Moscow Air Show in 2005. Unfortunately, selling the helicopter proved to be difficult because it had to be built by the buyer. It was for this reason that a deal was made with Kamov (2008), which now builds the Rotorfly on a custom order basis only and delivers it as ready-to-fly."
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" anon.
“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.” -Albert Einstein
JAWA 2015-16 says:
Rotorfly R-30 Orlenok
English name: Eaglet
Type: Two-seat ultralight helicopter.
Programme: Designed by Boris Podnebesnov, former designer at KumAPP plant. Two or more prototypes (built by KumAPP, by which known as Patrul) undergoing testing by August 2005, when type exhibited statically at Moscow Salon. By 2010, a second example was registered RA-0800G and flying with Inflatable floats. Another, in military camouflage was complete by 2010 and marked '01'. Total flying time of more than 300 hours by end of 2011.
Current Versions: R-30 Orlenok: As described.
R-33: Shown in mockup form at Airshow China, Zhouhai. November 2014. Four-seat version. differing considerably in detail.
I agree that the price is unafordable for a private person. But look at the text: that's far from Oxford English of earlier times, more like babelfish of the russian original
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Thank you Gentlemen, for all the info on the RI-30/Eagle etc. whirlybirds.
I overcame the problem of those very expensive JAWAs. I sold the ones I had many years ago and then had the luck of finding a friend who collected dozens of copies (and kept them). Turned out to be a good, reliable and above all, inexpensive source when I need information.
Next challenge is a one-off which sadly no longer exists.
KARI BORA from South Korea, see JAWA 2004-05 and http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/foru...html#msg283961
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