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Thread: The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

  1. #9126
    This should keep you all guessing.

    Note the large wheels!


  2. #9127
    OK, I am outgunned by a who;le squadron of ball turrets. Aaaaaargh !

    Moze's jumbo-wheeler looks very Latécoère:

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    This looks awfully german!....but is it? BG

    ....or a czech Avia.....

  4. #9129
    Oh boy, I'm loving this. You guys aren't even close!


    Another view-


  5. #9130
    OK, so it's Mafia-sponsored. Presumably it's armored too......with a cocktail cabinet. That little putt-putt motor must have had a helluva job getting that heap of ironmongery off the ground.

  6. #9131
    12 cylinder putt-putt at that. One of the design team went on to build a top tier WWII fighter 13 years later.

    They do look like the mafia hehe.

  7. #9132
    Question is - what's it FOR ? Something that vast with no windows, no apparent cargo space apart from the Walmart trolley underneath ?? Got me beat.

  8. #9133
    This was going to be a trans-atlantic airliner. The trolley is the radiator!

    It is diesel powered...
    Last edited by Moses03; February 21st, 2014 at 06:24.

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    Thought it might have a Russian influence, but cannot find any leads on the Web.
    Keith

  10. #9135
    This one was parked at the same airport as the previous Loening.

    Built in 1929 and was lost in a hangar fire in 1931.

  11. #9136
    Even with all the clues, it took a lot of digging........

  12. #9137

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    Columbia Aircraft Uncle Sam...

    From Wikipedia - Closed cockpit high-wing monoplane with a 450 h.p. Packard 2A engine. Span 60 ft with 1400 gallon gas tanks.[5] Single development aircraft for a planned 50-passenger transoceanic transport. Test flown in 1930 using water ballast in long range tanks, logging twelve flights[6] but found to be under-powered. Destroyed January 1931 hangar fire with engine and instruments removed.

    Mike gets the point for this one.

  13. #9138
    Indeed a "Uncle Sam" special. for Mike.

    It sure had a European look to it.
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    I now know what threw me Moses....you said earlier that it was diesel powered, but looking at the Packard engine list the 2A-1500 was petrol (sorry gasoline) powered. I also misread the number of exhausts in the picture & thought it was a 12 cylinder W layout!
    Packard were the first apparently to produce a diesel but it was an air cooled radial. Later on they made a turbo diesel V16, but dont know when!
    Great fun this thread, gets one thinking along different lines! Long may it last.
    Keith

  15. #9140
    Oh dear, I assumed it was diesel. My apologies for the misinformation!

  16. #9141
    Here 's one that ain't diesel either..

  17. #9142
    Not one of the usual suspects methinks!

  18. #9143
    Appearances can be deceptive - here are two more photos to help.....

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  20. #9145
    That one !

  21. #9146
    Okay, Italian or French. Have to be one of the two right?


  22. #9147
    Two built. It was a little underpowered with the one Hispano-Suiza...

  23. #9148
    It is the C.A.M.S. 80, and actually that motor in the pic was a Lorraine Orion W-18 of 650hp - it was later replaced by the Hispano 850hp engine - shown below, but I agree with Moses, it still looks underpowered..
    This one served as an admiral's barge until it had a terminal pile-up at Cannes in 1938 (nice place to go...) Replaced by the much uglier Loire 130.

  24. #9149
    for Lefty on the C.A.M.S. Nice photo!

  25. #9150
    Grainy twin....

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