The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[Moses03]

I got this link to work:

http://www3.eesc.usp.br/alfa/ipai32.html

There is some text under the photo but I can't quite make it out enough to translate. It does look like a model now that you mention it?

[dan_pub]

Yes. I can make out the words maqueta and escala, wihich would be scale model.

[wout]

Hi Kevin, Hi Dan
Thank you for your help. If I tricked you with a flying scale model, I am sorry.
On the other hand, you now know what an IPAI-32 looks like.

Any volunteer for the next (full scale please) one?

[Moses03]

Thanks Dan for clearing that up!


Here is something to consider. You know how I like oddballs...

[Baragouin]

Thanks Dan for clearing that up!


Here is something to consider. You know how I like oddballs...

Well the front looks like a half built Alexander Bullet C but the rest doesn't tally at all....
BG

[Moses03]

It does have that look but not an Alexander. Right era and country though.


Here is a rare photo from it's one and only test flight-

[Moses03]

That is a LeBlond radial up front. From a line of several unconventional designs.

[Ferry_vO]

Possibly the Arup S-3?

[Moses03]

That's the one! Over to Ferry.

[Ferry_vO]

Thanks Moses! The wingshape was obvious Arup, but I couldn't find a photo of one with tricycle gear; the description I found was close enough though.

Here's a new one:

[lefty]

At the risk of falling foul of those blasted Soviet designations, I would say this is the TsAGI KASKR II, Ferry !

[Ferry_vO]

I have it as the Kamov-Skrzhinski KASKR-2, Mike, so close enough for me!

[lefty]

An almost-as-grainy trimotor which will be meat and drink to some around here !

[Ferry_vO]

An almost-as-grainy trimotor which will be meat and drink to some around here !

That landscape looks familiar......

[Moses03]

That is a really cool layout...

[lefty]

That's a bit low of you, gentlemen......However we're not exactly clogged up with answers......

[Ferry_vO]

There was a great website to find this one, but I think it's on the Fritz..

Anyway, I'll let others try to find this one, and all the hints above really narrow down the search location!

[Baragouin]

Hi Lefty
This looks very much like a Koolhoven FK37....if it isn't...well, it means I have cut another poor figure dear me....
Cheers
BG

But it isn't for the simple reason that the FK37 was a project only besides it was supposed to have a central tractor engine not a pusher....well, let's start again....

[Ferry_vO]

You are on the right track BG, just go back in time a bit.....

[srgalahad]

The NVI F.K.33 was an airliner built in the Netherlands in 1925 for use by KLM for night flying. It was a largely conventional high-wing, strut-braced monoplane with seating for ten passengers in an enclosed cabin. A trimotor design, the placement of its engines was unusual. While two engines were mounted among the struts that braced the wings and the main units of the undercarriage, the third engine was mounted pusher-fashion on a set of struts above the wing. The engine installation was further unorthodox in that none of the three engines were enclosed in nacelles, remaining instead fully exposed.

[lefty]

Right -the Amstel goes to Rob for the F.K.33, but we'll squeeze out a half-pint for BG who was getting pretty close!

You will find all the Koolhovens here -
http://members.ziggo.nl/henrikaper/koolhoven/

(Ferry and Moses, of course, knew all the time, but were exhibiting their customary modesty - let's all have one -)

[dan_pub]

Lefty, could you please post the photo of the FK-33 with its original registration visible, before it was deleted for the quizz?
This is a quite unique view of this rare aircraft.
Thank you

[lefty]

Can do better than that, Dan, here are three photos ! (I'm fortunate enough to have a copy of the 1926 Jane's)

There would appear to have been a change of mind about the length of the nose section ! Ferry ???

[Ferry_vO]

There would appear to have been a change of mind about the length of the nose section ! Ferry ???

After the first flights in September 1925 and adding the third engine, it seemed the aircraft because too tail heavy, so the Luggage compartment was moved from the back to the new, 1.5 meter longer nose in November of that year. Also the engine were moved forward by 75 centimeters.

It wasn't very succesful, as the only aircraft built was involved in several accidents and it disappeared in 1930.

[srgalahad]

Niggling suspicion that this made a previous appearance but...

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