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Thread: The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pomme homme View Post
    Spot on, Robert - although if I were a pedant (!), I might say that you're missing the word 'replica'. What became of the original after its - alleged - 450' flight across Wimbledon Common in 1912, before that flight was teminated by a tree, is not recorded.
    The 'replica' aka 'reproduction' is reportedly still at Ole Rhinebeck Aerodrome on static display https://oldrhinebeck.org/pioneer-era/

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  2. #20527
    'she has a much different configuration than the Libellula II posted by you.'

    Only superficially, Walter. My photo is from Jane's 62-63. Apart from the tail assembly, and some panelling on the door and cockpit sides, it is basically the same machine, I think !

  3. #20528
    The plane from the picture probably never flew since it was lost in a fire during repairs.
    However, a second example of that bird (possibly with a different engine) is said to have made some flights, but the design was abandoned.

    The remains of the second plane still exist in a European museum.

  4. #20529
    First flight was around 1914, the sources vary about the exact year.

    The manufacturer is probably best known for his twin-engined bombers of WW1.

  5. #20530
    Pretty sure I have never seen this one before. Not finding it in my archives.

    Interesting ship.


    Re: Magnificent Men-

    I liked the Gert Frobe German Colonel character.

    Along the way I found a really neat book called Building Aeroplanes for Those Magnificent Men. Chock full of photos and stories about building the planes for the movie. Test flight reports etc.

    Whoever owned it before me made all kinds of engineering notes in pencil along the margins. Kind of added to its character!
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  6. #20531
    Interesting book, Kevin!

    Re the mystery plane: You have to look in Germany and don't miss wikipedia!
    The plane is named after a bird of prey.

  7. #20532
    OK Robert, the only one I can find is the Siemens-Schuckert Bulldog, which is hardly a bird of prey !

  8. #20533
    Ok, time to solve the mystery.

    It is the AEG Eule (owl), an article about that bird is in wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEG_Wagner_Eule

    The remains of the AEG are in the "Muzeum Lotnictwa Polskiego" in Krakow, Poland.

    Thought that my clue about the twin-engined bombers would have helped, I believe these aircraft are the best known from AEG.

    Open house, please.

  9. #20534
    In reply to the Wiki saying it's the Owl. See attached.

    Chris
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  10. #20535
    Now, that is interesting, Chris!

    I didn't know that there is a controversy about the name of the AEG.
    Could you tell me the source of that quote?

    My photo came from the book "Deutsche Flugzeuge bis 1945" (German Aircraft until 1945) from Peter Cohausz. Mr. Cohausz has quite a reputation as an aviation author here in Germany.
    Since even in the book the plane is named AEG Eule I didn't have the faintest idea that this name is disputable.

    Learning something new every day.

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    Look, a V-tail but she can also put her wings as a V
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    Walter-

    A version of the Jamieson Jupiter methinks.

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    Hi Kevin
    Correct. From the info I gathered over the years, I think this is the prototype N1859M because that is supposed to be the only Jamieson with foldable wings.
    I think it was called the J-1 Jupiter.

    Your turn, please

  14. #20539
    Thanks Walter-

    Moving on with an oddball design.


  15. #20540
    The Sellmer Incubator, perhaps?
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  16. #20541
    It is. Terrible name for an aeroplane.

    Over to Uli.🍺

  17. #20542
    I agree, Kevin!

    On with something more racy. Not in aerofiles.
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    ...... from Italy ....

  19. #20544
    That hint is correct (and possibly sufficient)
    Who from those who know it will finish the bird?
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  20. #20545
    It begins with "M" ...... ( Not Macchi )

  21. #20546
    Apparently a „nameless design“: the Molteni experimental fighter or monoplane of 1929, see “The Aviation Historian 28” or https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thr...of-1929.18826/

    Open House
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  22. #20547
    May I insert a question about an unknown biplane that was posted in another forum?

    Anybody has an idea about the identity about the shown biplane?

    It was suggested that it might be the single Curtiss JN-5H before being converted to JN-4 standard again or a Canadian built JN-4 Canuck, but that was only a guess.

    Any suggestions?

    (The name "Nordflug" on the picture is the poster of that photo)
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  23. #20548
    Here's one that's in Aerofiles but no picture.

    Chris
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  24. #20549
    Robert

    As for the "Curtiss" I have a picture of the JN-5H and doesn't look anything like this aircraft. If the info I have is correct.
    There's a JN-4C with "NC686" registration

    Chris

  25. #20550
    Thanks for your answer, Chris!
    We also found the registration belonging to a JN-4C, but this plane looks so different to a "Jenny" that we thought it must be something else, maybe a modification. Therefore the idea with the JN-5H.
    Seems that we have to look elsewhere.

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