The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[giruXX]

I have this as Alexander Sedan aka Cabin Cruiser, 1927

according to aerofiles it became "the world's fastest hot-dog stand"

[Moses03]

With mustard! Uli.

[giruXX]

should be easy, but I'd like to read its "new" name

[fabulousfour]

My first thought was the Saunders ST-27/28 but they have a different tail.
I think this is the Carstedt Jet Liner CJ 600.

[cthornburg]

I got here to late but yes it's a Carstedt I flew one with Intl. Air Cargo out of Wash. National back in 1974. We called it "Super Bird of Peace" I bugged this company to go to work for them for at least 4 years after I got hired they went out of business in 4 months. They had the last fatal accident at Wash Natl. a Short Skyvan before the idiot at Air Florida decided to kill himself and his passengers for no reason. When Air Florida went in they said the last fatal accident at Wash Natl. was in 1947. So I learned no one cares about 2 cargo pilots.

I'm not sure which Carstedt it is but I flew 101LV if my memory is correct.

Chris

[giruXX]

A jetliner without a jet engine

Carstedt Jet Liner 600, a "stretched" Dove with 605 ehp AiResearch TPE 331 turboprops, in service with Apache Airlines

Prosit to Robert (and Chris for additions which are not in books)

[fabulousfour]

Thanks Uli for the mystery and Chris for the interesting story!

I hope we didn't have this high-winger before, at least I didn't find it in my search.

[pomme homme]

If not for the tail, I'd think it to be one of the Caudron Phalènes.

[fabulousfour]

No Caudron, Mike.
This mystery is not even from France.

[fabulousfour]

This aircraft is an original design of a European company that otherwise built mainly foreign aircraft under license.

[fabulousfour]

In the late 1930ies the company was taken over by a manufacturer that has received quite a reputation for its military jets in the last decades - and for its cars in the past!

[pomme homme]

ASJA Viking II from Sweden (even though, again, the tail doesn't seem right for that)?

[fabulousfour]

It is the Viking II from Sweden built by ASJA which was taken over by Saab in 1939 (I love those early cars from Saab, very quirky looks )

For those who can read Swedish here is the full picture.

Skål

[pomme homme]

Thank you, Robert. Your clue offered two possible avenues and, fortunately, I pursued the right one!

Whilst the designer of the next offering has popped up here before, I don't think that this one of his creations yet has.

[pomme homme]

This aeroplane emanates from a country which, before it lost its independence, could be said to have punched above its weight in aeronautical terms and was one of over twenty aircraft designed by the same man, either individually or in conjunction with other designers.

[Baragouin]

This aeroplane emanates from a country which, before it lost its independence, could be said to have punched above its weight in aeronautical terms and was one of over twenty aircraft designed by the same man, either individually or in conjunction with other designers.

Hi Mike!
Latvia comes to my mind and the man you are talking about might be Irbitis (or Cukurs)...but what the Aircraft is I know not…
Cheers
Carlo

[pomme homme]

You're correct on the country, Carlo, as you are with your first guess at the designer. And with that information it shouldn't take you long to identify the aeroplane.

[pomme homme]

I suspect that it's been easier to get into Fort Knox than this website this evening!

Last clue. This aeroplane is supposed to have a 45hp six cylinder Anzani up front but, for the life of me, I can see only three cylinders in the photo. It dates from 1929. And if that doesn't produce an identification, I'll do so myself before I turn in tonight.

[pomme homme]

There being no takers and as I'm about to turn in, the aeroplane in question is the Irbitis I-4 Vanadzins, YL-AAF, produced by the Christine Backman aircraft factory in Latvia. Some sources describe it as the VEF I-4, but as it seems to predate Irbitis' VEF days this appears inappropriate. Open house, gentlemen.

[dan_pub]

VEF Irbitis I-5 Ikarus II ?

[pomme homme]

Here's the whole of the photograph, with caption.

[Baragouin]

I believe that we should all be indebted to Mike for the nice picture of most rare latvian aircrafts!
Cheers
Carlo

[fabulousfour]

Indeed, Carlo!

To keep things going here is a special mystery in colour.

[fabulousfour]

The wing configuration is part of the aircraft's name.

[Baragouin]

Indeed, Carlo!

To keep things going here is a special mystery in colour.

Waco AVN-8 (Model N)?
Cheers
Carlo