The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**Baragouin** · February 25th, 2019, 01:01

Originally Posted by lefty

Considering the only visible bits (fuselage, gear, engine,struts, etc ) have absolutely nothing in common with the original in 1000photos, I think you chaps did exceptionally well !

May I join Lefty with my personal compliments for the brilliant deductions of Robert and Uli on the Indraero (aus einem quasi Wrack eine glänzende Folgerung). But wait, within the next 50 years or so I'll be able to do the same!
Cheers
Carlo

**giruXX** · February 25th, 2019, 01:12

My guess was made in pure desperation

More stuff for everybody comes here:

**cthornburg** · February 25th, 2019, 17:17

Outside the scope of the thread but fun what is the instrument shown? From my flight last night.

Chris

**musterpilot** · February 25th, 2019, 17:40

Outside air temp gauge

**cthornburg** · February 25th, 2019, 23:15

You got it luckily wings & tail didn't look like that.

Chris

**giruXX** · February 26th, 2019, 03:26

back to the current mystery: famous designer, several built

**Baragouin** · February 26th, 2019, 04:24

Originally Posted by giruXX

back to the current mystery: famous designer, several built

Could she be an early Focke-Wulf like i.e. the S-1?
Cheers
Carlo

**giruXX** · February 26th, 2019, 04:54

Sorry Carlo et al. not from Germany. But Europe is OK.

**pomme homme** · February 26th, 2019, 05:36

I'm tempted by the SABCA-Jullien SJ.1A but the wing and tailplane tips are not right, the cylinders are exposed, only one was built and Henri Jullien wasn't famous. In fact, I think that I've convinced myself that it's not the SJ.1A!

**giruXX** · February 26th, 2019, 10:43

that’s correct
Our mystery plane is a contemporary of the SABCA, of course.
It was very successful in many competitions! One of them consisted of crossing the English Channel twice in a single day at the expenditure of less than 9 liters of fuel!

**lefty** · February 26th, 2019, 22:49

Dewoitine D.7

**giruXX** · February 26th, 2019, 22:52

Yes, of course! Over to the Kingdom of Fife

What made this mystery so sticky?

**lefty** · February 27th, 2019, 00:41

It's a not-very-well-documented period, Uli, and like the others I was stuck in a SABCA/Poncelet/Simonet rut.

Further digging revealed a Dewoitine in various competitions, but I couldn't find the D.7 in my Dewoitine bible ! Only later found tucked away, a wee chapter on avionettes, and there she was.

Here's Georges Barbot looking very chuffed after pocketing 25000 francs for the double crossing (in a 14hp plane..)

**lefty** · February 27th, 2019, 00:45

Now this one will be much easier for you fellows - I can't find evidence that it actually flew, but then again one source says it wasn't even built !

Anyway, it's a bit different, so -

**Baragouin** · February 27th, 2019, 05:07

Originally Posted by lefty

Now this one will be much easier for you fellows - I can't find evidence that it actually flew, but then again one source says it wasn't even built !

Anyway, it's a bit different, so -

Well it's different in many ways besides being unmistakably french (she even has the Aeronavale marking on the tail!) and the Caproni-like stagger of the wings is very curious to say the least….having said that it's the first time I see this pic!
(oh yes it was shown at a Salon in Paris in the late twenties)
Cheers
Carlo

**fabulousfour** · February 27th, 2019, 05:50

Maybe the Levasseur PL.151?

Couldn't find a photo of her but according to the secretprojects-forum a Levasseur inverted sesquiplane was shown in Paris in 1932...

**lefty** · February 27th, 2019, 10:25

That's the one, Robert - very few photos around, or information about what happened to this one. Why, one wonders, an inverted sesquiplane ? The other notable feature is the enormous props on those Levasseurs.

Over to ff -

**fabulousfour** · February 27th, 2019, 11:01

Thanks, Mike.

Here is a biplane with "normal" configuration though the size might be a bit unusual.

**Green** · February 27th, 2019, 11:47

Port Victoria P.V.8 Eastchurch Kitten.

**fabulousfour** · February 27th, 2019, 12:18

That's the bird!

Over to you, Green.

**Green** · February 27th, 2019, 12:27

Cheers FF.

Didn't see this listed...

***Moses03*** · February 28th, 2019, 06:20

Not sure what country is being represented by those flags. Thought that might be a clue.

**fabulousfour** · February 28th, 2019, 06:25

Maybe Hawaii (Rainbow State)?

**cthornburg** · February 28th, 2019, 07:26

to flat for Hawaii

Chris

**cthornburg** · February 28th, 2019, 07:42

After checking the internet and a leading French specialist. The Levasseur PL.151 is just a mockup. Not built so couldn't have flown but very interesting to see a picture of it.

Chris