The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**lefty** · November 21st, 2018, 22:18

Chris, this is my go-to site for Rumanian aircraft. It was when looking for yours that I found the other one!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/49859210/...05-1974#scribd

In the meantime, by request.......

**fabulousfour** · November 22nd, 2018, 04:15

And finally we have an SPCA mystery

That is the SPCA 60T.

**lefty** · November 22nd, 2018, 04:50

Sorry, Robert, it isn't !

**fabulousfour** · November 22nd, 2018, 05:37

Not?

I'm confused.

The link from airwar.ru shows the same photo and designates the craft as the prototype of the SPCA 60T.

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/flyboat/spca60.html

Would SPCA type IV be the better choice?

**pomme homme** · November 22nd, 2018, 05:44

Tee hee hee!

**Baragouin** · November 22nd, 2018, 06:26

Originally Posted by lefty

Sorry, Robert, it isn't !

Well I also have her as the SPCA 60T "Hermes"....
Cheers
Carlo

**pomme homme** · November 22nd, 2018, 07:27

SPCA E-7? The same flying boat seems to have had a number of designations. But it is French, after all!

**lefty** · November 22nd, 2018, 07:30

Oh dear, no wonder Mike is giggling -I should have known better than to delve into the murky world of French aircraft designation.

It appears that the military Type 60, derived from the civil Type 50 Hermès, was abandoned at fuselage construction stage, after problems with the structural rigidity of the Type 50.

It was different in many respects, not the least a single fin/rudder in place of the quadruple tail unit of the 50.

These are from the already notorious SPCA book - just shows you can't believe everything the Russians say.............

to Robert to mollify his confusion !

Attached Thumbnails

**lefty** · November 22nd, 2018, 07:34

The site has gone peculiar again - can't edit properly ! What I did not actually say is that my photo was of F-AKEB, the Type 50.

**fabulousfour** · November 22nd, 2018, 07:58

Mike, many thanks for the details.

As we all know by now, French designations are like swimming with sharks...

Are we going on with Open House then?

**Baragouin** · November 22nd, 2018, 09:38

Hi Lefty!
Just to clear up matters (if possible):
F-AKEB with quadruple tail (of which I have a couple of pics) = Type SPCA 50 Hermes.
At this stage does anyone have a photo of type 60 (or 6oT)?
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Carlo

**lefty** · November 22nd, 2018, 10:12

As I said, Carlo, the Type 60 was never completed - there is a photo of the hull in the book.

**fabulousfour** · November 22nd, 2018, 10:59

Hmm, to add a bit more to the confusion, I found in an old issue of Le Fana that it might just be the other way round.

According to that article, it was the SPCA 60 that was finished and was flown but the military variant SPCA 50 was never completed.

There is another picture from the SPCA 60 as well.

Let's declare Open House.

**Baragouin** · November 22nd, 2018, 11:44

Originally Posted by fabulousfour

Hmm, to add a bit more to the confusion, I found in an old issue of Le Fana that it might just be the other way round.

According to that article, it was the SPCA 60 that was finished and was flown but the military variant SPCA 50 was never completed.

There is another picture from the SPCA 60 as well.

Let's declare Open House.

Hi Robert!
Wonderful! as our american friends say "a real can of worms"!
Cheers
Carlo

**pomme homme** · November 22nd, 2018, 13:04

Never a dull moment in France, eh!

**fabulousfour** · November 23rd, 2018, 11:22

Okay, let's try this one.

***srgalahad*** · November 23rd, 2018, 12:38

It looks enough like the sole Schweizer SA 1-30 for me to offer that, hesitantly, as a guess

**fabulousfour** · November 23rd, 2018, 12:57

No need to hesitate, it is indeed the Schweizer 1-30

Enjoy your pint!

***srgalahad*** · November 23rd, 2018, 13:05

Thanks!
I'll save the 'pint' until Sunday when I can enjoy 'dos cervezas' instead. As I'm in the midst of packing for the regular, annual Mexican siesta, I'll leave the door unlocked and you can have an 'open house'.

**wout** · November 24th, 2018, 03:26

A one-of high wing job. The designer/builder is bettder known for a different category of aircraft.

**wout** · November 24th, 2018, 11:46

......and boats

**wout** · November 25th, 2018, 03:32

Does this help to put you on the right track?

***Moses03*** · November 25th, 2018, 17:20

Best I could do was track down the maker of the blue aerobatic plane which is MX. I did not find any taildragging high wing planes made by MX though.

**wout** · November 26th, 2018, 01:52

Hi Kevin

I certainly put you on the wrong footing. The low wing aerobatic aircraft is indeed an MX. I thought (as mentioned in he caption on the site I visited) she was an S-300 by Staudacher and L looked no further. How could I have missed this.
Let the the naming and shaming begin. I hope this will not influence my further career too much.
The high wing plane is the unique Staudacher S-1000 (N6195V) built in 1996. Just as a coincidence, the aircraft is right now being offered for sale at the barnstormers.com site.
Of course Staudacher is better known for the aerobatic S-260, S-300, S-600, S-900 etc. and the beautiful wooden boats.

May I suggest that Kevin is next since he noted my blunder.

**lefty** · November 26th, 2018, 02:11

Not your fault, Walter, if all aerobatic machines look the same !

The S.1000 seems to be obscure indeed - doesn't appear on his own website, but whilst searching ,came across its floater version, which, as you know, I couldn't resist !