The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**fabulousfour** · July 12th, 2018, 22:29

The Berca JB-3 from Argentina?

**wout** · July 13th, 2018, 01:07

Hi fabolousfour

That is her! Very nice research/investigation/spying work. Care to share how you found LV-X198?

**fabulousfour** · July 13th, 2018, 03:11

Hi Walter.
When you wrote that the picture is from a site which is no longer available I was quite sure that you meant the site of Grupo Aracuan.
I have the archived site where the types and their registrations are available, however no photos.

Googling for photos of the types gave a hit for the Berca at this site

Next mystery is a bit older.

**lefty** · July 13th, 2018, 07:36

It's the Villiers 24.

**Baragouin** · July 13th, 2018, 07:41

Originally Posted by lefty

It's the Villiers 24.

I opt for a Villiers 24...oops! lefty beat me!
Cheers
Carlo

**fabulousfour** · July 13th, 2018, 07:51

It is the Villiers 24!

The first French military aircraft with slats.

Over to Scotland.

**lefty** · July 13th, 2018, 11:16

Thank you Robert, and sorry Carlo !

It's ages since we had a floater......

***Moses03*** · July 13th, 2018, 22:12

Saro A.17? Maybe the one with the single Lynx engine.

**lefty** · July 14th, 2018, 00:43

That's the one - the sole single-engined Cutty Sark. Over to Texas

***Moses03*** · July 14th, 2018, 08:32

Thanks Mike. Going to the floater well one more time with this pointy chap.

**lefty** · July 14th, 2018, 20:37

That's the Shoemaker #3 Flying Boat.

***Moses03*** · July 15th, 2018, 07:19

Boom! The other shoe has dropped. Suds for the Scotsman.

**lefty** · July 15th, 2018, 09:21

Thanks Kevin.

Been watching the World Cup Final - congratulations to France, who deserved it, even if they were playing with twelve men.....

I've checked and can't find this large lady having been posted before - (she looks blowsy enough to be French, but isn't !)

**pomme homme** · July 15th, 2018, 10:37

I won't contribute yet. I'm not exactly unbiased. But who was the twelfth man?

**fabulousfour** · July 15th, 2018, 11:22

That is a very nice picture of the Pacific Hawk, predecessor of the Timm Skylark.

Is that a Curtiss Eagle in the background?

**lefty** · July 15th, 2018, 13:38

Robert, it is the Pacific Hawk indeed.

Mike, the refereeing decisions leading to the first two French goals were diabolical ! All the (neutral) pundits agree on that one......

***Moses03*** · July 15th, 2018, 15:22

Try as we might, we just can't seem to get excited by football over here. Maybe if the USA had qualified? Dunno...

I did attend a World Cup game in 1994, watching Spain take on South Korea. Enjoyed the match actually.

Re: Hawk
That is a nice photo! We had an interesting discussion on the Hawk some time ago. Unfortunately the original poster's picture is missing. (Although a partial crop of it appears further on).

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...highlight=timm

**fabulousfour** · July 15th, 2018, 22:13

Regarding the Hawk I would assume that it was really underpowered with just two 90 hp engines for such a big plane.

Must have been a much better performer with the Liberties...

Here is a mystery biplane much smaller in size

**dan_pub** · July 15th, 2018, 23:16

Originally Posted by Moses03

Re: Hawk
That is a nice photo! We had an interesting discussion on the Hawk some time ago. Unfortunately the original poster's picture is missing.

here you go:

**pomme homme** · July 15th, 2018, 23:25

Originally Posted by lefty

Mike, the refereeing decisions leading to the first two French goals were diabolical ! All the (neutral) pundits agree on that one......

Whilst I'd beg to differ - and might counter with some points concerning the decision to award the free kick which led to the first Croatian goal - I'm cognisant of the fact that this is the Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread and not the Ongoing Mystery Refereeing Decision Thread. And there's also the fact that I am feeling a little delicate - if I might put it that way - this morning .....

**zswobbie1** · July 16th, 2018, 00:04

Thank you for asking to get back to topic!

much appreciated.

**lefty** · July 16th, 2018, 00:46

Point taken , sir ! PH and I will continue this debate via PM's ! ......and I promise not to have a go at South African rugby either......woops!

Meanwhile, I haven't a clue about Robert's diddy biplane obviously filched from a funfair -don't think I would fit in anyway....

**fabulousfour** · July 16th, 2018, 04:19

Mike, it flew away from a merry-go-round and the cops in the background are just questioning the kid.

Just joking...

According to one source this tiny biplane was outstandingly successful, as a racer it couldn't be beaten in any race where it participated!