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Thread: The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

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  2. #17302
    You got it, Chris.

  3. #17303
    More bombers

    Chris
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  4. #17304
    Hey Chris, I remember the big wheels on this one. It's the Societe Astra Triplane of 1911.

  5. #17305
    That's it thought it would take longer.

    Chris

  6. #17306
    This one is a bit unusual and apparently did fly!


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    Couple of surplus barn doors there - must have had one heck of a trim change on deployment - other than that - not a clue!
    Keith

  8. #17308
    The photo was purportedly taken after a test flight with the designer showing off the full range of the unique control surfaces.

  9. #17309
    Flown in 1931 with a Siemens-Halske engine. A one-off of course.

  10. #17310
    About the only thing more I can say is that it is German. Really obscure one!

  11. #17311
    Well, if it's German and Uli and Robert can't identify it ..... !

  12. #17312
    Well, nothing mentioned about that kite in the "bible" of German aviation and nothing found in Flugsport 1931/1932.

    I would love to see the source of that photo after the mystery has been solved.

  13. #17313
    As well as looking some two decades older than it is and having flaps like barn doors, to add to its rarity it appears to be a tandem wing monoplane!

  14. #17314
    Quote Originally Posted by fabulousfour View Post
    I would love to see the source of that photo after the mystery has been solved.
    Me too ...

    I don't know the source of Moses picture , but the same was published in 1931 here : Flying Magazine - Google Livres

    In "Popular Aviation" it is said to have been built by Joseph Sporrer in Germany and named "Turkey cock" (Truthahn Hahn in Deutsch by Google traduction)

    I am doubtful about the German origin , but who knows ...

  15. #17315
    Richard B has it with the Sporrer Turkey Cock.

    I ran across the Flying Magazine bit some time ago and searched quite a lot to find a better picture and information. My photo came from another source that I can't seem to track down now (era newspaper I think). I'm guessing the Turkey bit is a bad translation from some original European press for publishing in the USA periodicals.

    Over to Richard B or open house if he declines to post a new mystery.



    PS: Would like to know what the "bible" of German aviation is. Sounds usefull!

  16. #17316
    Kevin, the "bible" is the "Typenhandbuch der deutschen Luftfahrttechnik" by Bruno Lange, roughly translated as Type Handbook of German Aviation Technique.
    There are two volumes, the first one is almost completely text where German aircraft from the very beginning until the seventies are described in short. Included are the technical data where available and a part where the engines are presented.
    There are few aircraft that are missing in that book, even the "exotics" are at least mentioned with a short text.

    The second volume shows photos of the aircraft where available.

    From the first volume there is a second edition which is a bit more complete.

    The name "Sporrer" doesn't appear in the first volume.

  17. #17317
    Thanks Robert. Will investigate.
    Last edited by Moses03; June 21st, 2018 at 10:34. Reason: Silly typo

  18. #17318
    The next Mystery plane , for your enjoyment :
    (about the Bruno Lange's books , I think , the best choice is : Bildteil of the "Das Buch der deutshen Luftfahrttechnik" (more than 2000 ! photos, no text) AND the "Typenhandbuch der deutschen Luftfahrttechnik" (more than 450 photos + text)
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  21. #17321
    Wout...paging Wout. Please report to the mystery plane thread...

  22. #17322
    Sorry , it seems to be more confidential than I thought .

    Designed and built by two brothers , it got the O.U.V. (Oscar Ursinus Verein) Preis in 1985 . It had a D-Mxyz registration .

  23. #17323
    Not in Janes 1985/86 and 1986/87.

  24. #17324
    It was pictured three times in Aero Kurier 1985/1986 ...

    If nothing new tomorrow , I will give the solution ...

  25. #17325
    I think we all surrender RichardB.

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