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Thread: The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

  1. #14826
    Lefty is holding back here but I will chip in on the quirky pusher. It's the Burgess-Dunne Hydro.

  2. #14827
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    Correct, but I did a bit more research just before replying & was surprised to find that there were 12 different designs made & quite a few more manufactured. Very interesting!

    http://www.massaerohistory.org/Burgess.html

    Over to you
    Keith

  3. #14828
    Rgr on the myriad of designs Keith. Thanks for the link.


    For the next mystery, something much newer.


  4. #14829
    Phillips Skylark CT-1

  5. #14830
    That was quick.

    The CT-1 ended up in Peru and it's eventual fate is unknown.

  6. #14831
    Here's one right up Walter's street........
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails sodfi85438jg.jpg  

  7. #14832
    While you are all pondering this canard, I wonder if anyone can shed some light on another mystery.

    I have a volume called 'Aircraft of the World' by Talbot Booth, from around 1940. It consists of some pretty ropey 3-views of a wide variety of aircraft, some of which are obviously projects which never made it , such as the Air-Wibault. (I also found the Edwards MBM-1 there)

    One such is this, the 'Lobil Monoplane', a supposed fighter from the USA. I can find no other reference to this whatsoever. Anyone ???
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  8. #14833
    When you do a Google search for "Lobil aircraft" there are two hits for old issues of the "Los Angeles Times", however, you can see only a preview unless you have a subscription.

    Number 1

    Number 2

    But you can read the OCR-text below the pictures.


    First text (some corrections made by me):

    Another aircraft factory, according to a statement made yesterday by Josef S. J. Hlobil, president of the Lobil Aircraft Corporatin. Hlobil, an aircraft engineer formerly with Consolidated Aircraft Corporation In San Diego, said his company will specialize in military planes. Actual construction of the first experimental plane is expected to begin within the next few weeks, with production scheduled to start in six months


    Second text:

    The Lobil Aircraft Corporation announced it will build plant here and specialize on military planes. President is Josef . 3. Hlobil. formerly an engineer with Consolidated Aircraft of San Diego, which is busy with navy bombers orders.

    According to this, the founder of Lobil Aircraft Company/Coorporation was Josef Hlobil whose name seems to have been simplified to Lobil. Hlobil seems to be a common Czech name.

    When you Google for "Josef S. J. Hlobil" you can find several aircraft related patents
    However, nothing about the plane you are looking for.

    By the way, your mystery plane is the one and only Piper PAT-1 Pugmobile

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    Hi Mike
    Your canard is a Piper! The PAT-1. Not by the Piper company, but designed by Howard Piper (son of William T.) and George Mead and built by PAT which stood for Piper Advanced Technology, Inc. not related to the other Piper company
    N15TP was sadly lost in a fatal crash in November 1981. She was nicknamed Pugmoile.

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    fabulousfour beat me by 1 minuites, 60 seconds, one zip of my beer.
    Must obviously improve on my typing speed

  11. #14836
    Tough luck, Walter ! FF, thank you for that - obviously, I Googled Lobil aircraft too, but came up with nothing. Strange.

    Over to you for the Pugmobile.....

  12. #14837
    Here is a well known but rather incomplete aircraft.

  13. #14838
    Time for a clue.

    The shown aircraft was originally built only as a "back-up" as another type from a well known designer was the preferred choice.
    However, the latter never materialized and so this aircraft went into mass production.

  14. #14839
    At first glance I would say it's a Short Stirling...

  15. #14840
    The Short Stirling it is!

    Must be about noon in Texas, so what about an alcohol-free beer?

  16. #14841
    Thanks Robert.

    Sorry for the lackluster photo. My scanner is being fussy today.


  17. #14842
    Quote Originally Posted by Moses03 View Post
    Sorry for the lackluster photo. My scanner is being fussy today.
    Kevin - a tip - try removing the three layers of gauze that you habitually scan through........

  18. #14843
    Well there's not a lot to go on here - the tail unit is de Havilland-ish apart from the lack of rudder balance, but I reckon this must be from your side of the water.......and what's that funny old machine in the background ?

  19. #14844
    Not American. This one had a 220hp Hispano-Suiza engine.

    I promise no gauze was used!

  20. #14845
    In 1921, this biplane was the fastest aircraft from this country. Even faster than the military models at the time.

  21. #14846
    I'm fascinated to know what are the minimonoplanes behind your mystery biplane.

  22. #14847
    The monoplane reminds me to the Castaibert monoplanes of Argentinian roots, however, the wing seems to be a bit low.

    But I can't find any Argentinian biplane that fits to the picture

  23. #14848
    This one is from the Northern hemisphere. The company built several racing and training aircraft from 1915 to around 1923 at which point the main designer went into the furniture business!

  24. #14849
    Any connection to the brothers Dufaux of Switzerland?

  25. #14850
    Not from Europe I'm afraid. Time to reveal as this is the Shirato Type 37 built in Honshu, Japan. (Could not find a positive ID on the smaller monoplanes in the background).

    Nice model here: http://www.freewebs.com/aeroscale/shiratotype37.htm

    Open board please.

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