The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**lefty** · March 25th, 2009, 07:08

Beware, the Scourge of the Desert is back.......

***Moses03*** · March 25th, 2009, 07:50

Welcome back Lefty of Arabia. :ernae:

Will post a new one here in a bit. Let me see what I can scare up from the dusty steamer trunk.

***Moses03*** · March 25th, 2009, 09:16

Next up, a biplane that means business...

**fasm** · March 25th, 2009, 12:09

Should be an english fela... never saw that before, that kind of plane

some record plane ?
V12 engine...

***Moses03*** · March 25th, 2009, 13:00

The V12 is correct. Not a record breaker (or setter) though.

**lefty** · March 26th, 2009, 02:40

My guess is American, although possibly French.

***Moses03*** · March 26th, 2009, 04:46

Yes, an Uncle Sam one-off that crashed after a few test flights...

**fasm** · March 26th, 2009, 06:50

curtiss something ?

i'm far from my materials...

**lefty** · March 26th, 2009, 08:21

Well so was I, but I'm not now - it's the Curtiss CB Battleplane.

***Moses03*** · March 26th, 2009, 09:27

Over to the sheikh.

**lefty** · March 26th, 2009, 09:44

Back in the comfort zone now, so we'll leave the dusty desert behind and go for, yes, a floater !!

***Moses03*** · March 26th, 2009, 17:49

The flashy paint, twin hull and torpedo away all say Italian to me...

**lefty** · March 26th, 2009, 23:12

Well I know a certain tome in your possession starts at 1930, but even if it were earlier, you wouldn't find this bird in it, because she ain't Italian !

**fasm** · March 27th, 2009, 01:43

V engines and wings shapes reminds me some french planes but the tails and double ponton just bring perplexity...
Somewhere in germany, baltic or nothern sea perhaps...
Well...

**lefty** · March 27th, 2009, 01:59

You were on the right track for a bit there, fasm.

Here she is again.

**fasm** · March 27th, 2009, 03:17

Ah, I see

it's definetly french but I don't remind this double ponton.
From the tail some FBA prototypearound 1918...
I found a Levy besson triplan with Hispano engines but couldn't find any pictures. I guess I won't find anything more today...

***Moses03*** · March 27th, 2009, 04:58

The only Levy Besson triplane floater I have found so far is this one. Like fasm said, the tail on Lefty's ship has a FBA look to it.

**lefty** · March 27th, 2009, 06:51

There were several Levy-Besson triplane floaters - the one I think you are referring to is the 'High Seas' Flying Boat pictured here.

The only thing my mystery has in common with the Levy-Besson is the hyphen :mixedsmi:

**fasm** · March 27th, 2009, 15:49

Halbronn-Tord ! HT2 it's seems on the first picture (with lorraine engine).
Produced by Labourdette a Famous Coachbuilder... jeeez didn't knew this one

**lefty** · March 27th, 2009, 22:05

Well done indeed sir !

to you. I have it as the Labourdette-Halbronn HT-1.

Where did you see HT2 on the pic, by the way ? A rarity indeed - now give us another, please.

**fasm** · March 28th, 2009, 01:05

The HT1 had 2 200cv Hispano the HT2 had 2 350cv Lorraine. I thought it was the lorraine on the first picture but nothing sure.
It was his first plane he only had 25 years old... and died 2 years after trianing aerobatics. A brillant man.

Well, thanks for the help, I guess I wouldn't have find it otherwise.

Some more weird hydro... a little older

**lefty** · March 28th, 2009, 04:24

A Jeanson-Colliex Bi-floatplane from 1913.

**fasm** · March 28th, 2009, 05:22

Yes it is

without hesitation

**lefty** · March 28th, 2009, 08:05

Thank you. Now for something more modern - not just a light aircraft, but one evaluated by one air force and given a fixed armament - sadly I cannot track down a pic of this version.

**wout** · March 28th, 2009, 12:09

Thurston-Patchen TSC-2 designed by well-known David Thurston.
Used wings, tail and rear fuselage of the TSC-1 Teal amphibian. One built 1972 and possibly tested by South African AF. Reportedly aircraft in SAAF Historical Flight Museum in South Africa. Registration in USA was N-1EX