The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**wout** · March 15th, 2009, 10:31

Moses03. French yes, postwar almost. This design was known under two designations.
Unfortunately have no better picture in my files, but will give you a link
(after someone guessed it)

***Moses03*** · March 15th, 2009, 10:44

Edit: Okay, maybe a Bloch MB 800?

This looks like your drawing: http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/...b-800.html?L=1

http://www.aviafrance.com/10139.htm

**wout** · March 15th, 2009, 11:48

Correct Moses03. One aircraft and three designations. MB-800P was the first and also SO-80 and SO-800P seen. S.A. des Avions Marcel Bloch was nationalized in 1936 and became SNCASO (hence change to SO-80/SO-800P) and of course Marcel Bloch changed his name to Marcel Dassault after WW2.
You already found two sites and www.airwar.ru/enc/cww2/mb800.html has a colour drawing. Text is in Russian.
I never new there were in fact 3 designs of Bloch which were known as MB-800 (see the english language version of the dasault site).

***Moses03*** · March 15th, 2009, 13:11

Gets confusing at times with all the nationalized designations.

Next up, a flying boat of size-

**lefty** · March 15th, 2009, 13:17

I shall leave you two to wallow in the delights of French aviation - I'm off to

for ten days.

Whilst you are agonising over sesquiplanes and close-cowled nacelles, I shall be gazing on the wonders of Petra, that 'rose-red city, half as old as time.'

Just hope I don't fall off the camel.......But my Indiana Jones hat should save me.

See y'all later

regards

Lefty

***Moses03*** · March 15th, 2009, 13:21

Have a safe trip Mike. Watch out for those grumpy camels.

***Ferry_vO*** · March 15th, 2009, 13:25

Enjoy yourself Mike, and bring back some photo's!

***Ferry_vO*** · March 15th, 2009, 13:41

Just a wild guess: Wibault 240?

**lefty** · March 15th, 2009, 13:44

You can't expect me to leave with a floater up for grabs !

It's a Tupolev Ant-27.

***Moses03*** · March 15th, 2009, 16:21

Lefty of course grabs the Russian.

**lefty** · March 16th, 2009, 00:09

I am tempted to leave a stinker but won't be around to see the results !

Therefore, an easy one - if you get it, please carry on.

**wout** · March 16th, 2009, 00:39

TEMCO Aircraft Model 58 of 1954

**wout** · March 16th, 2009, 02:24

Twin tailboom type.

**wout** · March 16th, 2009, 02:28

Forget this one!. Wrong picture giving the answer. But I guess interesting anyway.

This is the real picture.

***Moses03*** · March 16th, 2009, 09:54

I know I have this picture somewhere. Thinking USA mid 1950's...

**wout** · March 16th, 2009, 10:20

It is not American, but a prototype that appeared in Europe prior WW2. The same company built a modernized version in 1946 (again only prototypes 2x)

***Moses03*** · March 16th, 2009, 14:38

Doh!

Alliet-Lariviere Allar 4.

The post war version: (Which appeared in our original mystery plane thread)

**wout** · March 16th, 2009, 14:58

:friday:
Excellent Moses03. It is the Alliet-Larriviere AL-04 (Allar 4) of 1936. My deep respect!
The picture you posted shows one of the the AL-06s at the 1946 or 1947 Paris Salon.

***Moses03*** · March 16th, 2009, 15:03

Thanks. The AL-06 is one of my favorites of the twin boom pusher family. A real beauty.

Here is one I can try on you all with Lefty away...

***Moses03*** · March 17th, 2009, 13:24

This one set a record or two in its day...

***Moses03*** · March 17th, 2009, 19:44

No guesses huh? It is from a major European manufacturer. Will reveal in the morning unless someone is on the trail.

**Ralf Roggeveen** · March 17th, 2009, 22:25

Thought it might be Italian, but am now veering towards French - possibly some sort of Latecoere? Whatever it is, too big, not enough engines, not enough floats! (And did they build that airstrip on a mountainside?)

***Moses03*** · March 18th, 2009, 04:46

It is Italian Ralf and they did build the runway on the side of a mountain. The downward slope of the runway helped the plane get up to speed with all the fuel it carried.

***Moses03*** · March 18th, 2009, 16:54

Time to refresh. This one is a Savoia-Marchetti S.64. Two built.
It set records for distance and time aloft in 1928 and 1930.

Here is the next one-

***Ferry_vO*** · March 19th, 2009, 03:18

D'oh..!!

The SM.64 reminded me so much of Balbo's SM.55 (Tails, engine location..) that I looked in the right direction but somehow completely overlooked this.....