The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux. - Page 509

Thread: The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

  1. #12701
    I'm most grateful to Richard B, from whom I've received a PM informing me that this parasol monoplane is, in fact, German - which, on reflection, seems entirely logical for an aeroplane constructed, in 1930, 'entirely on sailplane lines'. It is the RRG Hummel designed by Fritz Stamer of Rhôn-Rossiten Gmbh. It first flew in 1930 and was powered by a 18 hp DKW engine. Thank you, Richard. And if you're reading this and would care to offer the next challenge, I'll be grateful to you. But if not, then it's open house.

  2. #12702
    Yes, thanks Richard for the ID. Quite an obscure one!

    I have invited him in the past to join us but he seems to keep busy over at the Aerodrome forums. Never too late to sidle up to the trough...

    http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51

  3. #12703
    Parasol monoplane, eh? I was seeing a tandem-wing + sesqui (2.5-plane?) and investigating in that direction. No wonder...
    Now that you said it, though, it's indeed there.

    By the way, it is Rhön-Rossitten Gesellschaft (with ö Umlaut not ô Circonflexe like in Froggish), after the Rhön area of Hesse.
    RRG was the 1st sailplane league officially recognized. Some background at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh%C3%...n-Gesellschaft

  4. #12704
    Sorry. Immediately prior to posting I was corresponding with Richard in French and clearly my brain didn't switch into German quickly enough! It looks as if an open house situation prevails.

    Apfelmann

  5. #12705
    Postwar jet fighter and in color too!


  6. #12706
    Only a day early........

  7. #12707

    Ye-8 variant

    It is obviously a variant in the Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-8 family, one close to the F-107's solution.
    I cannot find its name though, or any trace of it.

    I'll be very interested in a version of the original un-doctored photo when this mystery is solved.

    Aaaargh! just saw lefty's post. Moses, you wouldn't dare, would you?

  8. #12708
    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pub View Post
    Moses, you wouldn't dare, would you?
    I did. The Russian-ish jet is a rabbit hole.

    For those of you who know me, I have worked in some "questionable" aircraft around April 1st for a few years now. And yes it was a little early as I didn't want to get stuck trying to decipher a grainy Balkan 40hp parasol for the next few days.

    This was the one I almost posted. Again, fictional.



    Open board of course!

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    This twin tail boomer has really flown.
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  10. #12710
    Hmmm. This beauty could be modeled on the runway by Ms Bela...

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    She is European and was initially completed without the tail booms.

  12. #12712
    Quote Originally Posted by wout View Post
    She is European and was initially completed without the tail booms.
    Yes, they do look a bit of an afterthought !

    Oh dear - that nice German flying wing site has disappeared.....shame.

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    The designer has more flying types to his name. The registration on this one was also used for an earlier (jet) aircraft.
    An earlier design was named the xxxxxx and this one is the xxxxxx II
    This info must be of tremendous help

  14. #12714
    Come on guys!

    here is version I, Bela too:


    Edit: Please no images of that type. Thanks, Moses
    Last edited by Moses03; April 3rd, 2016 at 12:38. Reason: Unsuitable image

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    Is Bela Polish? The twin boomer is.
    The Malgosia II/IIA (SP-YEM) by Edward Margański. The earlier Malgosia (SP-0053) was not related and a conventional low wing trigeared motorglider.

    SP-YEM was earlier seen on the ZRiPSL/Magański EM-10 Bielik light jet/trainer. Another recent design is the EM-11 Orka twin pusher.

    Open House, please

  16. #12716
    Yes, Ms Malgosia Bela is Polish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%C5%82gosia_Bela

    Sorry I did not want to answer because I am unable to post the next challenge, being away.

  17. #12717
    A big ungainly water ship. Easy or not?


  18. #12718
    Back in my territory - in more ways than one. This aquatic lady is the Hall XP2H-1.

    Very French-looking - also one of my books claims it was 'probably the largest single-bay biplane ever built'. Hmmm..........

    (intrigued by what appears to be a bit of jousting armour in the bottom right ??)

  19. #12719
    Spot on Mike. I too thought the photo angle had a French feel for the red herring. I think the jousting armour is an interior photo of the hull?

    Over to the lowlands-

  20. #12720
    Here's a candidate for the Ugly Bug Ball - there is some debate about just how much it flew if at all, but I'm sure somebody will pounce on this fairly quickly !
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  21. #12721
    One of those mid-fuselage engine experiments, the Galvin HC of 1913.

  22. #12722
    Indeed it was - the whole contraption eerily reminiscent of 'Little Boy', with probably the same flying characteristics ! Over to Texas
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  23. #12723
    Here is an easy twin to consider.


  24. #12724
    The very elegant Italian Siai Marchetti SM 102.

  25. #12725
    Right on Mike.

    Have at it-

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