Thanks Moses!Originally Posted by Moses03
It was just by sheer chance that I guessed the right Aircraft as my knowledge of very old US Airliners is close to zero....Anyway what about this big floating brute?
Cheers
BG
(Daveroo not to worry your turn will soon come!)
Looks like a Consolidated P2Y-1 to me..
If correct, I should be delighted to let Daveroo show us his wares !
I love the shark mouth!(Actually it looks more like an angry badger or some such).
Yes Lefty it is indeed a Consolidated P2Y-1 (I guess it is one of the few unconverrted ones!) That is an interesting pic it would be fine if somebody could tell us where it was taken (looks like a tropical country, maybe Hawai?).
OK shall we let Daveroo show us his wares?....
Cheers
BG
"This is the sole P2Y-1C (ex NC2102) delivered to Cartagena, Colombia on Dec 31st 1932."
or
"Foreign sales included a P2Y-1C for Colombia flown on December 23, 1932"
-The Columbian P2Y remained in service until 1948!
Most likely somewhere else... I seem to discern some New Zealand location... New Guinea?... at any rate it does not look like Hawaii... I lived there 10 years...and
have been to all the islands except Lanai... Approposito... dove abita lei in Italia... io ho visuto a Vicenza per 20 anni piu' o meno... andai in pensione nel 84... e
restai a Vicenza dal 82 al 2000...
Il tizio in primo piano nell'aqua ha un capello tipico degli Australiani od Neozelandesi...
A presto,
G.
***
Ecco enigma risolto... Colombia! vedi sopra
btw... Columbian is from Columbia... like the university... from the country Colombia... ie: colombiano... it's COLOMBIAN...
Last edited by gaucho_59; May 7th, 2014 at 11:56. Reason: addendum
I think this is the machine in question - the dark paint finish was bothering me - this explains it !
Nice find Mike! Wondered about the dark scheme as well.
Thanks Moses and Lefty for the precious information....I'm very much indebted to you
Cheers
BG
Ciao Gaucho_59 e benvenuto!
Io abito a Arezzo (circa 30km a su di Firenze) che č una bellissima piccola cittŕ di circa 100.000 abitanti.
Sento che hai vissuto a Vicenza per lungo tempo. io conosco Vicenza benissimo perché mi occupavo di oreficeria (ora sono in pensione da 15 anni!) e ero a Vicenza ogni sei mesi per lavoro!
Come si sta in California? Qui la vita č diventata un grosso problema a causa della disoccupazione e della instabilitŕ politica (Fortunatamente Arezzo č una piccola cittŕ e il tasso di delinquenza da noi č ancora basso).
Saluti e a presto
BG
To all members: sorry for the italian intermezzo from now on English will be resumed...
Ciao Gaucho_59 e benvenuto!
Io abito a Arezzo (circa 30km a sud di Firenze) che č una bellissima piccola cittŕ di circa 100.000 abitanti.
Sento che hai vissuto a Vicenza per lungo tempo. io conosco Vicenza benissimo perché mi occupavo di oreficeria (ora sono in pensione da 15 anni!) e ero a Vicenza ogni sei mesi per lavoro!
Come si sta in California? Qui la vita č diventata un grosso problema a causa della disoccupazione e della instabilitŕ politica (Fortunatamente Arezzo č una piccola cittŕ e il tasso di delinquenza da noi č ancora basso).
Saluti e a presto
BG
To all members: sorry for the italian intermezzo from now on English will be resumed...
Ciao Gaucho_59 e benvenuto!
Io abito a Arezzo che č una bellissima cittadina a circa 30 km da Firenze. Mi dici che sei stato per lungo tempo a Vicenza cittŕ che conosco benissimo perché vendevo oreficeria e ero a Vicenza per lavoro ogni due mesi: ora sono in pensione da 15 anni.
Come si sta in California?
Come saprai la situazione qui in Italia non č delle migliori ma lasciamo perdere!
Cari saluti e speriamo di risentirci presto
Baragouin
To all members
Thanks for bearing our italian intermezzo, from now on English will be resumed....
Cheers
Daverooo...... are you there ??? You're on !!
ok,i saw this the otherday and thought...these guys know this one?...who knows..youve prolly already used it?....but here goes!
this is so me,,i dont think this is the one i wanted to show yall.......but i cant find the one i wanted...and for a laugh..have a peak..
i thought this is funny..and i feel like a jackpacker ,seeing how i cant find the RIGHT danged picture....sigh
Daveroo, because the regulars on this forum, myself included, are a thoroughly unscrupulous bunch, we normally try to photoshop out the reg markings, or any other giveaways !
Nice little machine, though - don't think it's been here before.
As for the duck's derriere - lovely.
yes i noticed the reg number...but i also woould like to know what it is..lol..as i said before...im clueless..but looks fun to fly...and the the duck..sorry..but i thought it was funny...hes right on for the runway...just cant see that VASI
Just to show how thoroughly unscrupulous I am, I did the search on Aerofiles and came up with...
<center>Taubman
</center> <small>1929: All-American Aircraft Co, 352 Bowery St, Akron OH; S Taubman Aircraft Co, 40 South Howard St, Akron OH. c.1940: Babcock-Vlchek Aircraft Corp, Deland FL. 1941: Acquired by Bartlett Mfg Co, Rosemead CA.</small>
LC-13 aka Babcock LC-13 and Babcock-Vlchek X Air-master 1931 (ATC 2-389) = 1pOmwM; 75hp Michigan Rover; span: 30'10" length: 20'5" load: 815# v: 100/90/40 range: 300. Triangular fuselage. POP: 2 [X/NC998W, NX18165]. An attempt to the revive the design as Bartlett 3 Zephyr failed with the outbreak of WW2.
Now that the cat is out of the bag, why, if it is a "1P" (one place) does it have TWO of those nifty headrest/fairings??
Is the photo actually of the:Bartlett
<small>1941: Bartlett Aircraft Mfg Co, Rosemead CA.</small>
LC-13A Zephyr aka Blue Zephyr 1946 (ATC 2-389) = 2pCmwM; 150hp Franklin 6A4-150-B3; span: 30'9" length: 21'0" load: 685# v: 150/135/42 range: 500 ceiling: 18,000'. Streamlined, single-strut version of Taubman-Babcock LC-13 from design rights. $3,995; POP: 1 [NX18165].
Hmmmm?
But how does that account for the confusion in registrations in Aerofiles and the difference of Closed/Open cockpits in the codes??
Nice find and a pretty plane Dave!
For future reference, www.aerofiles.com is the place. Use the "Search" menu choice (read the directions) and also take a look at the Data Codes menu - you can use those-all or in part - in the search with some work (like the one from above: 1pOmwM)
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" anon.
“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.” -Albert Einstein
thanks for that link..that will be a great asset
Because if you look elsewhere in Aerofiles, you will find this !
<small>Babcock-Vlchek X</small><small> [NX20490]</small>
LC-13, LC-13A aka Babcock-Vlchek X Airmaster, Taube, and Taubman Zephyr (in 1939 or 1940) (ATC 2-389) 1938 = 2pCmwM; 130hp Franklin 6AC or 120hp Martin 333 (LC-13A); span: 30'10" length: 20'5" v: 150/135/x range: 450. Side-by-side cockpit. POP: uncertain but [NR998W] was modified as OmwM racer. Production halted by the outbreak of WW2. SEE ALSO Bartlett, Taubman. Babcock split from Taubman and moved his own ops to Florida to license-build assault gliders for USAAF in WW2
Dave, you will have many happy hours browsing Aerofiles - join the club ! Over to Rob......
Since it looks like I'll have the schedule from the netherworld for the next couple of days, let's toss this open.. have at it!
"To some the sky is the limit. To others it is home" anon.
“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.” -Albert Einstein
Hi srgalahad!
Please forgive my ignorance of the english Language but could you explain in plain words what is the meaning of: "let's toss this open....have at it!"
Thanks for your patience....
BG
Must be a Canadian colloquialism.
Okay, I will have a toss at it with an easy one...
This is an experimental one-off variant of a well known ship.
T162 Beaumont? or T163 Buckingham?
no...on further inspection its not......rear of engine nacelles are off..and nose is differant
The fuselage looks more in keeping with a Beaufighter, but cannot find a reference to one with 'cufflinks' (Twin fin & rudders).
Keith
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