The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

***Moses03*** · December 6th, 2008, 11:07

Looks like a Hanriot H.220-2?

Welcome back SabreAce! I spent many great summers (and the odd winter) in Middleboro visiting my Aunt & Uncle.

**SabreAce** · December 6th, 2008, 11:16

Well done.

Although the picture "officially" shows a Hanriot (later SNCAC) NC.600, a little bit of research shows it did wear the H.220-2 designation early on, prior to receiving the NC.600 number.

You're up, Moses.

***Moses03*** · December 6th, 2008, 11:21

Thanks!

Here is one I would like to see modeled for FS...

**Ralf Roggeveen** · December 6th, 2008, 22:44

Had a look at that late last night, gave up & went to

. Thought you Americans would have got through about five more aircraft while Europe slept, but find it's still with us; Well done Mo'!

Thought it might be a Fleetwings, Sikorsky, or even a Brit - none of those though.

Baffled. Lefty must know...

**Ralf Roggeveen** · December 7th, 2008, 12:56

Suzie & Jayne are asking : Where is everybody?

I've been flying a Sabena DC-6 from Schiphol to Heathrow in about 1956 today. Wanna pilot the DC-6B for KLM in the Caribbean, but it's a bit more complicated, so thought I'd work my way up to that. It's a ProFlight Yoke System thing...

***Moses03*** · December 7th, 2008, 14:17

Sorry been away today with the family. Thought this one would have lasted about 10 min.

You might be closer than you think Ralf...

**lefty** · December 7th, 2008, 15:36

I've been away too, and curling last night. No takers, then, for Moses' Sikorsky XSS-2 ???

Actually, I know that one is right, so in accordance with custom, will press on with something completely different, as Monty Python used to say

**SabreAce** · December 7th, 2008, 17:20

McDonnell 220?

**Ralf Roggeveen** · December 7th, 2008, 21:05

Why the question mark, SabreAce?!?

**lefty** · December 7th, 2008, 22:32

Well actually,Ralf, SabreAce is right to add the question mark, because it isn't a McDonnell 220 !

This is the same aircraft, but in its previous incarnation as the McDonnell 119, a proposed USAF utility/training aircraft. It was converted as a commercial airliner and renamed the 220. So I suppose the only real difference would be the provision of a drinks trolley, but then again maybe the USAF have those too...........

The original reg, if I hadn't photoshopped it out, was N119, changed to N220, and subsequently it was sold off and became N4AZ. (the livery is different too) Anyone know if it is still around ?

to SabreAce for his 99% correct answer !

**Ralf Roggeveen** · December 8th, 2008, 03:06

Live & learn. A nice-looking aircraft, but presumably too small to be a successful commercial one. Got that picture from the Airlines.net website & I think they said that it was no longer in existence.

I'm afraid SabreAce will be

now and we'll have to wait a few hours for his next mystery! Mid-day here, so I guess it'll be morning on the US East Coast...

**SabreAce** · December 8th, 2008, 05:31

Well, I'd need to get a little bit of sleep to keep up with Lefty, now...

Came across a bit of interesting reading about the 220 here:

http://www.anav8r.com/page03.htm

As of 1982, she was in private hands. A quick check on Airliners.net shows the most recent photo was at El Paso, Texas, in March of 2002, where she supposedly still sits, along with some F-106 fuselages.

Now then, onward with the mysteries.

**Ralf Roggeveen** · December 8th, 2008, 06:47

C'est le Wibault-Penhoet 282-T-12, n'est-ce pas?

**SabreAce** · December 8th, 2008, 07:10

I think we can go ahead and call that a correct for Ralf

The info I've got lists that as a Wibault-Penhoet 283, with the main visual difference between it and the 282 (at least in the 1 picture of each I've got) being that the 282 didn't have the massive fairings on the main wheels. I can't say for certain if that's a legitimate difference, or if the 282 in the other image has just had them removed/never put on. The Complete Encyclopedia of World Aircraft (ed. David Donald) only lists an increase in fuel supply as the change between 282 and 283 models.

Over to you.

**lefty** · December 8th, 2008, 07:16

Different props, but it is hard to tell unless you have the rest of that reg ! My guess is the 283.

Come on Ralf, something tasty from Sherwood, please. (I seem to remember Friar Tuck loved venison pasties - one of those will do)

**Ralf Roggeveen** · December 8th, 2008, 09:36

Seem to remember that you also got excited when I went to Melton Mowbray, home of the succulent pork pie, in the summer...

Anyway, here's a (non-food-related) aircraft I came across recently & thought might get you chaps scratching your heads:

**lefty** · December 8th, 2008, 09:43

Gosh ! A single-engined two=seat biplane ! Not many of those around,then............

***Moses03*** · December 8th, 2008, 11:01

My instinct was French...Leopoldoff L-3?

**Ralf Roggeveen** · December 8th, 2008, 11:24

Originally Posted by lefty

Gosh ! A single-engined two=seat biplane ! Not many of those around,then............

No need to be sarcastic just because you didn't get your venison (or know the aeroplane), Mike!

Moses, however, gets the

! Leopoldoff L.3 Colibri - and there are a few still flying.

***Moses03*** · December 8th, 2008, 11:30

Thanks for the suds Ralf.

Moving right along, any takers on this twin?

**lefty** · December 8th, 2008, 13:16

Mitsubishi Ohtori.

***Moses03*** · December 8th, 2008, 14:51

Lefty in for the kill.

Have at it-

**lefty** · December 8th, 2008, 14:57

I thought the Leopoldoff looked like so unremarkable that nobody would get it, but was proved wrong by the redoubtable Moses - well done indeed.

Just to show I've got nothing against biplanes, here's one that doesn't look like a zillion others ! (and I am miffed about the pasty, too. Will have to settle for a Scotch pie)