Dr. House meets Smokey The Bear

[fliger747]

The route tuning is critical in this particular event!

T.

[fliger747]

As a fun exercise, I yust run ineresting leg between two quaint fields for above course. In Helichopper.... Full zoot trees, FSX etc. Quite the pleasure as you decadent capatiliisichiski say.

I prepose that we try some non tuned runs in either helichopper or piston single, 350 hp or less, fixed gear. Perhaps other direction.....

[srgalahad]

Yer on!
If we have to go thru SOH withdrawl this weekend it might keep our eye on the bagel. Warming up the Pitcairn and then gotta get the NH90 loaded and try it flingwing.

So.. reverse course, no test runs, keep your own time - no Duenna posts (but save them in case), 9000 ft cap (???) for the whole thing???

One bottle (small) Stoly for fastest by Nov 1 :isadizzy:
Rob

[fliger747]

Leg one: McCall to 24K
AH64D
9:20 baton time.
Does not slow down well!!!

T.

[fliger747]

11+19, baton time 24k-ID41
AH 64D

[jkcook28]

choppers! So a weekend of crash-filled whirlly-birds. Gotta check the hanger.
Was testing Capt Sim Yak-3...Spit-like; fast but no legs.

[PRB]

Dang, I'm starting to think like Fliger-Tom... :d This is from yesterday... I was all over the place. Took me longer to slow down and land the bloody "jelly pooper" than it did to fly there!

[fliger747]

Leg Three, ID41-ID67:
14;03
AH 64D

[fliger747]

Paul: Am flying the order backwards: I see the Westland is a bit faster than the Longbow!

Cheers: t.

[fliger747]

ID67-U72
9:20
AH 64D

Flew the next leg only to find the duenna did not activate. I think something about the verticle takeoff may affect this.

T.

[srgalahad]

One run dun
KMYL-24K =14:40
24K - ID41 =16:57
ID41 - ID67 =18:50
ID67 - U72 =14:10
U72 - 0U1 =26:58
0U1 - 13ID =15:00
13ID - 02ID =17:12
02ID - ID86 =23:30
ID86 - 0U0 =16:17
0U0 - KMYL =21:58 for a total of 3h:5m:32s

Pitcairn PCA-2

WunSoarBut

[Tako_Kichi]

Try a rolling take off that exceeds 5 MPH as I think I read a while back that choppers lifting off vertically can fail to trigger the Duenna. You may have to use a rolling landing too for the same reason.

[srgalahad]

choppers! So a weekend of crash-filled whirlly-birds. Gotta check the hanger.
Was testing Capt Sim Yak-3...Spit-like; fast but no legs.

To quote der fligermeister (this was HIS idea!)
"in either helichopper or piston single, 350 hp or less, fixed gear. "

So as long as you make sure it's under 350HP go ahead and fly the fixed-wing (BTW the DHC Beaver is 450 but Piglet's Helio is 295 HP :d)

Rob

[Moses03]

Rob, you get an "A" for effort flying that Ronco slicer & dicer. :d

Just for grins I ran the first leg in the Santos Dumont Demoiselle of 1909. A two cylinder opposed air cooled Dutheil-Chalmers engine of 20-30HP. And some bamboo bits. :mixedsmi:

Always wondered about setting up a race from London to Paris in 1903-1913 era aircraft. No gps, otto etc.

[srgalahad]

MOses, I did the Paris to London in the Demi.. it was blast (of propwash) and only worried when I was over the cold, wet Channel.

How about a "European Snowbird" thing.. London to Nice in anything pre-Great War? Should be about a week (10-12 hrs) in the spring

Rob

[fliger747]

U72-0U2 17+11
0U2-13ID 8+48
13ID-02ID 11+28
02ID-ID86 10+54
ID86-0U0 11+04
0U0-KMYL 14+35

Total for the "hole deal" 1+58+12

Ah 64D

[jkcook28]

Reverse course, CH-53 Jolly Green. Big and fast, much overspeed but no blown legs!

KMYL-24K 6:40
24K-ID41 8:26
ID41-ID67 8:48
ID67-U72 5:42
U72-0U1 12:16
0U1-13ID 6:12
13ID- 021D 8:00
021D-ID86 7:30
ID86-0U0 7:45
0U0-KMYL 10:04

total 1:21:23

[fliger747]

Ya doing 200+ knots in level cruise?

T.

[jkcook28]

Ya doing 200+ knots in level cruise?

T.

LOL! Yes it could probably do it, but overspeeds at 170KIAS. Must be vigilant!

Here's the txt files:

[jkcook28]

...and the last two:

[fliger747]

170 knots is about the max speed for that bird. I only get about 155-160 TAS from the Longbow, which is about right. Does not hardly pick up speed downhill at all, which is wierd. A little slow in the climb.

The real reason most choppers are not "really fast" has to do with retreating blade airspeed. Somewhere between loss of lift on the retreating blade and mach drag rise on the advancing blade some interesting control and drag issues arise.

Actually is not really a Jolly Green, but a Sea Stallion. I flew the RTW stuff in the default 206, which is really slow, but was all I had at the time. So much for RTW prep!

T.

[srgalahad]

Knowing that at least last year I was about the only other 'potential' flingerwinger I figured I'd get working on it early... got the 206 working and down pat in FSX and a bevy of beasts in FS9 but none with any speed. The Mil-8T is nice.. smooth to fly but only 110Kts

Was working up the Mil tonight and found it has an "interesting" characteristic when flown too aggressively ... see attached (taken after a bit too forceful and arrival...

But hey!!!!... it's a true "Panther"

Rob

[fliger747]

Just make sure the bungs are in on all those Vodka drums ya have in the back.....

[Vicious]

Runs in the Cessna/Columbia 400 (piston single; <350HP; fixed gear)

Reverse route; original alt limits

KMYL-24K 6:38
24K-ID41 6:51
ID41-ID67 8:16
ID67-U72 5:31
U72-0U1 10:59
0U1-13ID 6:01
13ID- 021D 7:17
021D-ID86 7:18
ID86-0U0 7:12
0U0-KMYL 9:09

Total 1:15:12

Vicious

[jkcook28]

Thats a sweet model Vicious...good run!