MSFS AI Traffic

[MZee1960]

What AI traffic (payware/freeware) for MSFS exists that is :
1) simple to install,
2) covers most of the globe's major airports 'reasonably well',
3) features 'many' airline/airliner types - also with some GA traffic,
4) fps friendly ?

Just curious, as I will soon be making the jump over from FSX, and IMHO lot of the immersion the sim offers has it's basis in bringing the 'world to life' with traffic.
I currently use UT2 in FSX and see aircraft in virtually all airports (except the odd small, remote airfield), which is OK for me.
I am not much concerned with airline schedule/timetable flight accuracy.
Some addons require a lot of background effort to install, maybe OK for some, but I prefer easy to install types.
Some addons come with installers, but are lacking in 'accuracy of approach flight paths' around airports.

What AI traffic do people use in MSFS that is basically like UT2 in FSX ? The 'install and forget' addon, if you know what I mean......

[udidwht]

What AI traffic (payware/freeware) for MSFS exists that is :
1) simple to install,
2) covers most of the globe's major airports 'reasonably well',
3) features 'many' airline/airliner types - also with some GA traffic,
4) fps friendly ?

Just curious, as I will soon be making the jump over from FSX, and IMHO lot of the immersion the sim offers has it's basis in bringing the 'world to life' with traffic.
I currently use UT2 in FSX and see aircraft in virtually all airports (except the odd small, remote airfield), which is OK for me.
I am not much concerned with airline schedule/timetable flight accuracy.
Some addons require a lot of background effort to install, maybe OK for some, but I prefer easy to install types.
Some addons come with installers, but are lacking in 'accuracy of approach flight paths' around airports.

What AI traffic do people use in MSFS that is basically like UT2 in FSX ? The 'install and forget' addon, if you know what I mean......

Nothing yet like Ultimate Live traffic from Flight1

[Tom Clayton]

Until ATC gets a handle on telling the same plane to "expedite" a climb or descent ad-infinitum, I keep my AI to a minimum - sometimes none.

[MZee1960]

Until ATC gets a handle on telling the same plane to "expedite" a climb or descent ad-infinitum, I keep my AI to a minimum - sometimes none.

Good advice, Tom.

After seeing a few video instances of airliners buzzing airport traffic control towers ........ on final approach, I had to ask.

Flying in a seemingly 'post-apocalyptic' world is not really too enjoyable either IMHO.

You'd think, fixing AI traffic would be somewhere near the top of someone's 'to do' list

[DennyA]

To answer the question, Aerosoft's Simple Traffic is currently it for easy to install AI traffic packages. But it uses the default MSFS models and traffic files, so you get that horrid pointy nose A330-ish plane and the weird almost-A380. BUT, you do get authentic liveries worldwide, it's easy to install, and it's under $15.

AIG's freeware solution is the current solution if you want authentic airplane models, but it massively fails the "simple to install" part.

IMHO even with the current AI issues, I still like to have it on as it's fun to be landing on a runway and seeing a bunch of authentically liveried airlines taxying out for takeoff.

[tiger1962]

I can also recommend Aerosoft Simple Traffic. Apart from the low-flying airliner issue (which is Asobo's, not Aerosoft's) it works perfectly in Offline Traffic mode.
I have my AI traffic density set at 10% and my AI ground traffic set at 25% so that I can still get GA traffic at smaller airfields.
If you want to stop ATC's constant "expedite climb/descent" nagging, you can actually edit the en-US.locPak with Notepad. Search for "expedite" and you should find four lines:

"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_CLIMB.0.text": "{callsign_shortened}, please expedite your climb {altitude_new}.",
"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_CLIMB.0.tts": "{callsign_shortened}, please expedite your climb {altitude_new}.",
"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_DESCENT.0.text ": "{callsign_shortened}, please expedite your descent {altitude_new}.",
"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_DESCENT.0.tts" : "{callsign_shortened}, please expedite your descent {altitude_new}.",

Just delete the wording within the second set of quotes on each line like this:

"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_CLIMB.0.text": "",
"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_CLIMB.0.tts": "",
"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_DESCENT.0.text ": "",
"ATCCOM.AGNT_AC_VECTOR_EXPEDITE_DESCENT.0.tts" : "",


If you'd also like to stop ATC calling Generic aircraft, see this thread for further instructions: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...ft-in-MSFS-ATC

[Tom Clayton]

That will probably be overwritten with each update, but it's worth a shot! I'll have to try that this weekend.

Edit: Umm... I have 150 en-US.locPak files in the Official folder and five more in Community. Which one gets edited? Maybe the one I'm flying at the time?

Edit 2: If I'm editing the file for the plane I'm flying, that won't help when the plane doesn't have one. So if it reverts to a fallback, which one is that?

[Mr.Mugel]

I usually fly with online live traffic and the ATC does not seem to have the same issue there. I hardly ever hear the "Expedite Climb" callouts (unless it's meant for me actually). Downside is that when I fly in my own timezone at night, there is hardly any traffic. Another positive thing is that ATC uses correct Callsigns, like Speedbird for British Airways, etc.

[keithb77]

Anyone tried this yet?
https://flightsim.to/file/28491/ai-m...ffic-ver-0-1-0

[tiger1962]

That will probably be overwritten with each update, but it's worth a shot! I'll have to try that this weekend.

Edit: Umm... I have 150 en-US.locPak files in the Official folder and five more in Community. Which one gets edited? Maybe the one I'm flying at the time?

Edit 2: If I'm editing the file for the plane I'm flying, that won't help when the plane doesn't have one. So if it reverts to a fallback, which one is that?

Sorry Tom, I should have given the full address (this is for the MS-Store version): C:\Users\(your name)\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimul ator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Official\On eStore\fs-base

There are only 14 .locPak files in my Official folder, 1 for en-US and 13 other languages? As far as I know, ATC will only use the language which the sim was installed in, and only from the relevant .locPak file in the Official\OneStore\fs-base folder.
It's worth making a backup of the original so that you can replace it before installing the next Sim Update.

[Dangerous Beans]

You could always make a mod to go in the community folder out of it, shouldn't be to difficult.

[Tom Clayton]

There are only 14 .locPak files in my Official folder, 1 for en-US and 13 other languages?

There's also a set with every official aircraft, and some dev's also include a set with their addons. Then you have all the bush trips, landing challenges, tutorials, and probably something else I'm missing. And I came up with my number only searching for the EN-US packs.

[MZee1960]

I wonder what happened to FS Live Traffic ? Last I heard, they were waiting for an installer to be finalized ?

https://msfsaddons.com/2021/12/04/th...flightradar24/

[tiger1962]

There's also a set with every official aircraft, and some dev's also include a set with their addons. Then you have all the bush trips, landing challenges, tutorials, and probably something else I'm missing. And I came up with my number only searching for the EN-US packs.

So there is, I honestly hadn't noticed! Maybe they're included as a backup or failsafe, the sim seems to use the en-US.locPak file in my fs-base folder only.

I wonder what happened to FS Live Traffic ? Last I heard, they were waiting for an installer to be finalized ?

Yes they are, although they're adding screenshots to their Discord channel quite often so other development work is going on in the meantime.

[jmig]

Currently, I don't use AI traffic.

[Tom Clayton]

The language packs do more than just things like ATC. They can also include stuff about the aircraft you're loading to be scrolled across the bottom of the screen. The payware Emb-110 is one that does that.

[tiger1962]

The language packs do more than just things like ATC. They can also include stuff about the aircraft you're loading to be scrolled across the bottom of the screen. The payware Emb-110 is one that does that.

It's true that the language packs also contain other dialogue as well as airline callsigns, aircraft types and model names etc., but the loading screen info is contained in the aircraft.cfg file under the [LOADING] section.
I've edited my EMB-110's to read as below:

[LOADING]
ImageName = LOADING_FREEFLIGHT
Tips0 = "The EMB-110 Bandeirante remains the most successful commercial aircraft in Embraer's history."
Tips1 = "The name Bandeirante means 'Pioneer' in Portuguese."
Tips2 = "The first production EMB-110 flew on August 9th 1972 and entered revenue service in April 1973."
Tips3 = "Production of the Bandeirante ceased in May 1990 but it's reliability and good operating economics have kept it in service to this day."

[Tom Clayton]

OK - so what mad me think it was the language pack??? Thanks for the clarification!

[MZee1960]

So now with the new FSLTL Live Traffic being offered here : https://www.fslivetrafficliveries.com/

any thoughts on how good it is from users ?

[Mr.Mugel]

Check this thread for some opinions and experiences:

https://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu.../128939-New-ai

[MZee1960]

Check this thread for some opinions and experiences: https://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu.../128939-New-ai

Thank-you, Mr. M ! For some reason I missed this thread altogether.

[Navy Chief]

So now with the new FSLTL Live Traffic being offered here : https://www.fslivetrafficliveries.com/any thoughts on how good it is from users ?

I have been using it, and I like it!! NC

[FAC257]

I have been using it, and I like it!! NC

What an improvement to the AI traffic. I've been doing before and after testing with FSTL & LatinVFR Static Aircraft. I had been using LVFR SA prior to getting FSTL, with all the in-sim AI traffic turned off. That was better than the default AI oddities.

I've decided that FSTL by itself is better than in combo with LVFR SA. With both running it creates piggy backed aircraft parked in the same spots. I also seem to notice that when picking a starting location with LVFR SA installed I often spawn on top of another aircraft. With FSTL alone that hasn't happened yet.

When the injector starts, I've been changing two of the parameters. I don't see the need for the sim to be thinking about AI aircraft very far from my aircraft, so I change that to "50". I also set the "Blank Liveries/Generic Models" to "not be used". With that changed I haven't run into any of those oddballs so far.


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