My father had a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro that he bought back in 2004 or so. He used this joystick extensively throughout the years, and then I inherited it back in 2014.
I used that stick until about a year and a half ago when it started having issues with the down position of the HAT switch as well as one of the buttons in the base. So I figured, what the heck, might as well buy a new one.
Low and behold, I discovered that the new Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joysticks were NOT built as well as the older versions... even though they have the EXACT SAME part number.
The first one that I bought started having centering problems due to the centering spring being weaker in the newer versions of the joystick compared to the older versions, and I discovered that this was the norm for ALL of the newer versions. They start to develop HORRIBLE play in the handle after a few short months of moderate use.
It was still under warranty and I exchanged it. 10 months later, same problem, so I got a warranty replacement for that one as well. 3 months later, SAME problem, so I got yet ANOTHER warranty replacement.
I then bought ANOTHER one new, and it developed the centering issue 5 months later... got a warranty replacement for that one too.
Anyhow, I currently have about SEVEN of these warranty replacement joysticks laying around (not including dad's original), and I finally decided to completely throw in the towel with Logitech joysticks. I ended up Frankenstein-ing dad's, using parts from the newer ones I had laying around (replaced the HAT switch board, as well as the switch boards for the switches in the base of the joystick).
Dad's worked fine now, but I was still quite fed up with the lower quality of the newer versions of the joystick.
Anyways, long story short, I purchased a Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS, and I LOVE THAT JOYSTICK... and will NEVER return to the Logitech. The T.16000M FCS is a bit more $ than the Logitech, but it beats it, HANDS-DOWN. Compared to the Logitech joysticks, it's SUPER smooth, SUPER precise, the twist grip has more deflection to it (and is really precise), and the stick itself is a dream to operate and use
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