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    Photogrammetry/Non Cities

    I was interested to see which cities have photogrammetry. These are a few I've located. U.S. photogrammetry capitols represent 80% of our capitols.
    European cities have many interesting cathedrals, churches and buildings. It's been fun seeing parts of the world in this amazing sim.

    The following are those I've found:

    Photogrammetry Cities


    Alba, Germany
    Atlanta, GA
    Augusta, ME
    Austin, TX
    Baltimore, MD
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Barcelona, Spain
    Berlin, Germany
    Bismarck, ND
    Boston, MA
    Bordeaux, France
    Brussels, Belgium
    Carson City, NV
    Cheyenne, WY
    Chicago, IL
    Cincinnati, OH
    Cleveland, OH
    Columbia, SC
    Columbus, OH
    Concord, NH
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Dayton, OH
    Detroit, MI
    Denver, CO
    Des Moines, IA
    Disney World
    Dover, DE
    Hamburg, Germany
    Harrisburg, PA
    Honolulu, HW
    Huntsville, AL
    Jackson, MS
    Indianapolis, IN
    Jefferson City, MO
    Las Vegas, NV
    Leipzig, Germany
    Little Rock, AK
    Lincoln, NB
    Los Angeles, CA
    Louisville, Ky
    Madison, WI
    Madrid, Spain
    Naples, Italy
    Marseille, France
    Milan. Italy
    Minneapolis, WI
    Montgomery, AL
    Munich, Germany
    Nashville, TN
    New York, NY
    Oklahoma City, OK
    Orlando, FL
    Paris, France
    Philadelphia, PA
    Phoenix, AZ
    Pierre, SD
    Pittsburg, PA
    Portland, OR
    Providence, RI
    Raleigh, NC
    Richmond, VA
    Rome, Italy
    Sacramento, CA
    Salem, OR
    Salt Lake City, UT
    San Francisco, CA
    San Fernando Valley, CA
    Santa Fe, NM
    Springfield, IL
    St. Louis, MO
    St Paul, MN
    Seattle, WA
    Tallahassee, FL
    Tokyo, Japan
    Trenton, NJ
    Venice, Italy
    Wichita, KS
    Zurich, Switzerland


    Non Photogrammetry cities


    Albany, NY
    Annapolis, MD
    Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Athens, Greece
    Belgrade, Yugoslavia
    Bern, Switzerland
    Boise, ID
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Beirut. Lebanon
    Bucharest, Romania (F)
    Budapest, Hungary (F)
    Cairo, Egypt (F)
    Charleston, WV
    Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
    Damascus. Syria
    Dublin, Ireland
    Frankfort, Germany
    Frankfort, KY
    Gdansk, Poland
    Grand Rapids, MI
    Helena, MT
    Helsinki, Finland
    Innsbruck, Austria
    Interlaken, Switzerland
    Istanbul, Turkey (F)
    Hartford, CT
    Juneau, AK
    Leningrad, Russia (F)
    Lansing, MI
    Lexington, KY
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Moscow, Russia (F)
    Olympia, WA
    Oslo, Norway
    Prague, Czechoslovakia
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Tel Aviv
    Vienna, Austria
    Warsaw, Poland


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    Last edited by Tom Clayton; December 13th, 2020 at 05:33. Reason: Removed London, UK

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    Portsmouth and Southampton in the UK also have photogrammetry.
    Which aren't the first two that spring to mind if you're going to do it.

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    Greensboro, NC has photogrammetry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyA View Post
    Greensboro, NC has photogrammetry.
    Yep - and my favorite bar is there!
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    My current place in Aachen (Germany, very close to the Netherlands and Belgium border) is also represented with photogrammetry.
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    If Baton Rouge, LA is an example of MSFS photogrammetry, it doesn't say much for MSFS photogrammetry, The state capital building is horribly unrealistic. The Old State Capital isn't there. While LSU is there, I had to add a freeware Tiger stadium.
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    Charlotte, NC has some good photogrammetry also.

    https://flightsim.to/file/391/charlotte-north-carolina

    While at the site, those of you who like to fly the mountains of the east, get this file, it is a constant work in progress and updates as he gets more done. It removes those horrible molehills and monolith ponds.

    https://flightsim.to/file/4402/eleva...xes-eastern-us

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    How does one tell whether it is used or not? Is it that photogrammetry cities have the actual buildings they should (correct colors, architecture, etc), but non-photogrammetry cities just have generic 3D buildings with the 2D footprint and more-or-less correct height of the one's they're representing? (For example, I've seen some sports stadia that look like oval donut shaped office buildings...)

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    Here's a list of the original list before the two world updates:

    https://www.fanbyte.com/guides/a-com...imulator-2020/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cazzie View Post
    Charlotte, NC has some good photogrammetry also.

    https://flightsim.to/file/391/charlotte-north-carolina

    While at the site, those of you who like to fly the mountains of the east, get this file, it is a constant work in progress and updates as he gets more done. It removes those horrible molehills and monolith ponds.

    https://flightsim.to/file/4402/eleva...xes-eastern-us

    Cazzie
    Yeah, I noticed that with the latest update, that, whoever their new vendor is who updated the database, it seems like sharp changes in color warp the altitude of small areas. For instance, I'm seeing a lot of parking lots that instead of being flat are now either large drumlins or bowls, just in the area of the parking lot. Also, I'm noticing a lot of missing buildings now that used to be properly handled by Azure to put in a building, as well as "photographic" (as opposed to photogrammetric) trees that are only in the texture, and not covered by 3D trees. And what's up with those pokey trees sticking up twice as high as the trees around them?




    (The MSFS official site is reducing the color depth of screenshots, hence the banding seen here).

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    Flagstaff, AZ is photogrammetric

    They covered the Capital Building in (photogrammetric) Concord, NH with trees! haha... I was wondering why I couldn't see it when I took off from R30 there, it's extremely prominent with it's gold colored top.

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    Around Patrick AFB there is a strange mixture of true PG buildings, flat images that should be homes and homes with roofs and no sides. That imagery extends along some of Coco beach. Perhaps the data was limited or faulty. Some cities are true to life and stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Clayton View Post
    Here's a list of the original list before the two world updates:

    https://www.fanbyte.com/guides/a-com...imulator-2020/
    I wish I had that list earlier! Nevertheless I 've seen many places that may never have been seen.

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    Jeez - "Here's a list of the original list..."

    And I posted that sober!
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    San Fernando Valley can be added to the list of PG areas including Canoga Park, Van Nuys and several other communities.


    Canoga park is of particular interest to me since it is where I rented a room in a home for my first job out of college. I worked for Rocketdyne, a division of North American Aviation where I tested rocket fuels at their test site in the Santa Susan mountains at the west end of the valley. Both the home and test site are recognizable in MSFS. Brings back memories of 1957.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimjones View Post
    San Fernando Valley can be added to the list of PG areas including Canoga Park, Van Nuys and several other communities.


    Canoga park is of particular interest to me since it is where I rented a room in a home for my first job out of college. I worked for Rocketdyne, a division of North American Aviation where I tested rocket fuels at their test site in the Santa Susan mountains at the west end of the valley. Both the home and test site are recognizable in MSFS. Brings back memories of 1957.
    Wow! I bet you have some great stories!

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    Is London, UK really photogrammetry based? I thought it was only Southampton in the UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by centuryseries View Post
    Is London, UK really photogrammetry based? I thought it was only Southampton in the UK?
    Southampton and Portsmouth I believe.
    Hopefully we'll get more with the upcoming UK update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerous Beans View Post
    Southampton and Portsmouth I believe.
    Correct. But you can purchase the Orbx London Landmarks package in the Marketplace. It's currently the only payware I have, and I love it. It's easy on the frames and makes cruising down the Thames inbound to London City a very nice flight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Clayton View Post
    Correct. But you can purchase the Orbx London Landmarks package in the Marketplace. It's currently the only payware I have, and I love it. It's easy on the frames and makes cruising down the Thames inbound to London City a very nice flight.
    I have both that and their EGLC Tom, being a born and bred Londoner I bought them immediately on release, in fact I buy all their UK stuff on release.

    I'm definitely looking forward to the UK update though, that and the VR one.
    In general the UK looks great as long as you don't look too closely, there's definitely quite a few things that need fixing.
    For example immediately south of the photogrammetry southampton in the Isle of White and the needles and their lighthouse at its westmost point are completely missing
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    There are some historically significant lighthouses here on the North Carolina coast that are missing too. It would be nice if someone was to make an addon for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerous Beans View Post
    Southampton and Portsmouth I believe.
    Hopefully we'll get more with the upcoming UK update.
    I thought so, perhaps JimJones can remove London from the list of photogrammetry cities at the top, since London is autogen with the exception of a few landmarks, enhanced by OrbX Landmarks.

    Wish it was photogrammetry though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by centuryseries View Post
    I thought so, perhaps JimJones can remove London from the list of photogrammetry cities at the top, since London is autogen with the exception of a few landmarks, enhanced by OrbX Landmarks.

    Wish it was photogrammetry though!
    I would like to remove London from the list but do not have an edit button. Sorry for the error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimjones View Post
    I would like to remove London from the list but do not have an edit button. Sorry for the error.
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    Thanks for bailing me out, Tom.


    On your recommendation of the Orbx London scenery I D/L it. Besides all the interesting new buildings, I was pleased to see the fine representation of Albert's monument outside of the Royal Albert's Hall, the St Paul Cathedral, and the Royal Naval College. An iconic feature missing was the Greenwich observatory near where longitude zero passes through. Although it is not a prominent feature and a bit back from the river, photogrammetry scenery should show the Observatory if and when it is done for London.

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