Legacy Aircraft

[blanston12]

Some more tests:

Virtavia B-29, I sort of expected this.:



RealAir Duke V2, even worse:



I posted the outside shot just you can see it was not night time.

Then the RealAir spit, and to my surprise it seamed to work OK.


Like many of the aircraft tested quite hard to control on the grounds and when landing I again ended up like this.

[blanston12]

One last thing to try, in FSX and P3D if you run the engine too long at 100% it will fail on you and a very dramatic way and I wanted to see if it did the same thing in MSFS



It did!

[blanston12]

Just to continue a theme, the AH Typhoon. Again just about everything worked but very hard to control on the ground, nosed over just after I loaded the sim with the parking brake set and throttle at idle.



Ending up upside down in a field has become a pretty common way for me to end up when flying these 'Legacy' fighters, this does not happen to me in other sims I promise.

[FlyingsCool]

How long does it take you for each plane?
I think you said the GAS Super Stearman worked very well?

I suppose I should break down and follow the directions...

[ak416]

Nice to see so many models in the new sim, even if they aren't perfect.

I've also been slowly going through my library and have had mixed results.

Metal2Mesh Mirage - Had to bring over the engine.cfg from the Citation before it would even move, otherwise it would remain completely stationary. Difficult to get started, though I can't be sure if that's because I haven't been in it for a few years or what. Hud doesn't work and all the gauges have the triangle clickspot errors, I haven't tried removing them in the panel.cfg yet. It flies like a Citation because of the engine.cfg, I assume. I don't know enough about this stuff to change it (yet).





Lotus Simulations L-39 - I was pleasantly surprised by how well the L-39 worked out of the box. I had some trouble starting the engines, but once I did it was mostly fine. It flies well, maybe a bit more agile with the "Legacy" flight model selected in the options menu, but it was good enough for me to have some fun with. Cockpit sounds don't work because they rely on a .dll, though when I brought my gear up I did hear that and that sound kept looping. Most if not all of the click spots work, which was a first for me.







I very much doubt that either Lotus Simulations or Metal2Mesh will be updating either aircraft for the new sim, but it's fun to dream, right? Maybe the tools will be there for us in the future to make these ports a bit more seamless.

[bazzar]

"Ending up upside down in a field has become a pretty common way for me to end up when flying these 'Legacy' fighters, this does not happen to me in other sims I promise. "

Nosing over will undoubtedly be caused by contact points, the CoG not relating to the parameters used in the MSFS world. Try moving them forward in the Aircraft CFG of the pre-converted file. This will effectively move the CoG when on the ground. Then port and see what happens.

[YoYo]

"Ending up upside down in a field has become a pretty common way for me to end up when flying these 'Legacy' fighters, this does not happen to me in other sims I promise. "

Nosing over will undoubtedly be caused by contact points, the CoG not relating to the parameters used in the MSFS world. Try moving them forward in the Aircraft CFG of the pre-converted file. This will effectively move the CoG when on the ground. Then port and see what happens.

btw. Bazz any news about first official conversion any Your model to MSFS? Maybe as the first MS893, C140 or this new Zlin 50?

btw.2 Im not sure but MSFS Store will the one place only to buy addon for MSFS? What will happen with Simmarket, PCAviator, ect.?

[keithb77]

A few minutes with DXTBMP fixed the tyres and exhaust stack on the AH Spit and Hurricane

Still a few textures to convert though.
Very pleased with these two

For the Virtavia Islander it's very easy - just follow the instructions and it works.
I still use the simple python script (no need for virtual studio) but there are good instructions for the converter program here at FSDeveloper
Cheers
Keith

[bazzar]

btw. Bazz any news about first official conversion any Your model to MSFS? Maybe as the first MS893, C140 or this new Zlin 50?

btw.2 Im not sure but MSFS Store will the one place only to buy addon for MSFS? What will happen with Simmarket, PCAviator, ect.?

As part of the "proof of concept" approach we are taking with Ctrl/Ezy, we are currently working on bringing the Pucara to MSFS. Once the workflow is to our liking, we will then be able to publish more detail on other product for MSFS. Zlin Z50LS will definitely be there.

MS has always stated that developers will be able to sell their products themselves. We have heard nothing to the contrary as yet.

[YoYo]

MS has always stated that developers will be able to sell their products themselves. We have heard nothing to the contrary as yet.

Thx for reply, they are some good news!

[Bomber_12th]

Yes, there are already some companies that have their products released outside of the MSFS Marketplace, like ORBX, FLYT, Gaya Simulations, Sierrasim and Drzewiecki. In Microsoft's own words, as reported in their July 16th development update:

"The Marketplace will operate under an Agency model, which means that you, as the content creator, will set the price for every piece of content you submit. Becoming a partner doesn’t alter your ability to sell your content on your own websites and storefronts. Just like with FSX, you can continue to sell your content outside of our Marketplace. Becoming a Microsoft Flight Simulator Marketplace Partner essentially unlocks another channel for you."

Obviously getting an addon product in the MSFS Marketplace will be of a great benefit especially when the XBox version of the sim is released, as it will open up a whole 'nother sector of potential customers.

[fsafranek]

Another one I've had success with is the Virtavia Islander, again everything except the radios, GPS and A/P display and everything works.


Cheers
Keith

Would love to see this one working. I wonder if there is a way to just distribute the needed files to folks who already have the payware?

Don't know if you've seen this thread at avsim but on page 7 Ernie Alston, developer of the KLN-90 used in the Virtavia/Flight1 Islander, gave us a 64-bit version. Works great in P3Dv4+.
avsim.com/forums/topic/529864-britten-norman-bn-2-islander-for-p3dv4-coming-soon/

[Navy Chief]

I just saw these screenshots that were posted on that Microsoft forum. Definitely got my attention!!





NC

[Navy Chief]

Keep an eye on this site. 😊 http://frenchvfr.free.fr/

[YoYo]

Btw where can I report bugs in MSFS and his default planes?

[ak416]

Btw where can I report bugs in MSFS and his default planes?

Top right > Submit a request

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/...ight-Simulator

[keithb77]

Would love to see this one working. I wonder if there is a way to just distribute the needed files to folks who already have the payware?Don't know if you've seen this thread at avsim but on page 7 Ernie Alston, developer of the KLN-90 used in the Virtavia/Flight1 Islander, gave us a 64-bit version. Works great in P3Dv4+.avsim.com/forums/topic/529864-britten-norman-bn-2-islander-for-p3dv4-coming-soon/

I can email you two JSON files, that should be all you need...pm me your email.Create the folder structure \Community\Islander\SimObjects\Airplanes\and copy your "Flight One BN-2 Islander" folder into it from an existing installation.Put the two .JSON files into the Islander folderStart MSFSThe Islander SHOULD be there and flyable, I don't know if anyone has tried this before but it should work....Yes, I had that GPS for P3D, it doesn't help for MSFS as the problem is only 3D gauges in the MDL file are supported for now.CheersKeith

[odourboy]

A lot of problems, but some small progress on this one:

[Navy Chief]

A couple more from that forum. I really hope these conversions can be shared. Piecemeal info so far. NC

[OzWookiee]

Hey folks, FYI I have written up the process for creating port-overs: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/th...to-msfs.448744

Theres a few things that I need to update but that's pretty much the process.

[odourboy]

Hey folks, FYI I have written up the process for creating port-overs: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/th...to-msfs.448744

Theres a few things that I need to update but that's pretty much the process.

Excellent. I could have used this two days ago when I was mapping airfile tables to .cfg files myself. But thanks for making the effort to codify and share this process.

Have you tried the Python build.py script to build your layout.json files? Seems way easier then the planeconverter.

[OzWookiee]

Excellent. I could have used this two days ago when I was mapping airfile tables to .cfg files myself. But thanks for making the effort to codify and share this process.

Have you tried the Python build.py script to build your layout.json files? Seems way easier then the planeconverter.

The each do the same thing and I was using PlaneConverter before the python file was a thing (like it's ancient or something LOL)

Have you got a link for that python file? I'll add it to the page. Also, did you want to include anything onto that master list to help?

[odourboy]

build.py is on github as part of the developer files from the A32NX project, here:

https://github.com/wpine215/msfs-a32...e/master/A32NX

Just install Python 3.8.x for W10 on your pc if you don't have it..
https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.....8.5-amd64.exe

Then drop the build.py script in the top folder of you add-on (where your manifest.json is) and click it To run it. Drops A layout.json in the same folder. Done.

[OzWookiee]

build.py is on github as part of the developer files from the A32NX project, here:

https://github.com/wpine215/msfs-a32...e/master/A32NX

Just install Python 3.8.x for W10 on your pc if you don't have it..
https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.....8.5-amd64.exe

Then drop the build.py script in the top folder of you add-on (where your manifest.json is) and click it To run it. Drops A layout.json in the same folder. Done.

Nice one I'll update the document now.

[OzWookiee]

Done: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/th...44/post-853400