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  1. #1

    Requestng DP help

    ...with the I-15bis or POLIKARPOV_I15_tipo2 1939 by xavierb. The download plane has 1000 rounds of mg ammo ( 7.62 mm (0.30 in)PV-1 or ShKAS machine guns) and 2000 rounds for cannon! I should be armed with four 7.62 mm (0.30 in)PV-1 or ShKAS machine guns, plus up to 150 kg (330 lb) of bombs.

    The section of the dp (I think) looks like:

    [GUNSTATIONS]
    ;
    gunstation.0=0,-2,1,0.05,780,2,0.02,500,0,20,1d1*7,-2.019,-0.2,-0.6,-0.128056,0,0.38560350701058,0,0,0,0,0.344
    ;
    gunstation.1=1,-6,2,0.05,811,10,0.02,500,0,40,1d1*8,2.019,-0.2,-0.6,-0.128056,0,-0.38560350701058,0,0,0,0,0.344
    ;
    gunstation.2=3,21,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0

    [guns.0]
    gun.0=500,1.79,1.17,2.49,0,0,1,500
    gun.1=500,2.3,1.16,2.49,0,0,1,500

    [guns.1]
    gun.0=1000,-2.7,0.72,2.49,0,0,1,1000
    gun.1=1000,-1.36,0.71,2.48,0,0,1,1000

    [guns.2]
    gun.0=4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

    Also the later variant the I-153 or POLIKARPOV_I153_VVS by xavirb has 2 mgs and 2 20mm cannon but again 1000/2000 rounds!

    [GUNSTATIONS]
    ;
    gunstation.0=0,-2,1,0.05,780,2,0.02,500,0,20,1d1*7,-2.019,-0.2,-0.6,-0.128056,0,0.38560350701058,0,0,0,0,0.344
    ;
    gunstation.1=1,-6,2,0.05,811,10,0.02,500,0,40,1d1*8,2.019,-0.2,-0.6,-0.128056,0,-0.38560350701058,0,0,0,0,0.344
    ;
    gunstation.2=3,21,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0
    ;
    gunstation.3=2,-1,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

    [guns.0]
    gun.0=500,1.79,1.17,2.49,0,0,1,500
    gun.1=500,2.3,1.16,2.49,0,0,1,500

    [guns.1]
    gun.0=1000,-2.7,0.72,2.49,0,0,1,1000
    gun.1=1000,-1.36,0.71,2.48,0,0,1,1000

    [guns.2]
    gun.0=2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

    Any help with these would be greatly appreciated. A dp tutorial would be nice. I remember seeing one on line once upon a time...
    "De Oppresso Liber"

  2. #2
    Shadow Wolf

    There was a thread similar to this not long ago,what you need is
    Caleb_Flerk's_Guide_to_Speshul_Efeks_for_CFS2 which is at SOH but I don't have the link,

    Found the link

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...s.php?catid=49

    TheBookie

  3. #3
    Thanks TheBookie. I found a dp edit utility there too. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=49&id=20511
    "De Oppresso Liber"

  4. #4

    Still having problems...

    I have tried to understand both utilities. I managed to reduce the ammo counts on both the I-15 and I-16 but can't replace the cannon on the planes that have them or reduce te ammo counts on the cannon equipped planes. Help??
    "De Oppresso Liber"

  5. #5
    Hi Shadow Wolf

    Why do you think think the second pair of guns are 20mm? The damage dice are pretty much for a ShKas 7.62mm machine gun (1d1*8) as are the rest of the values, i.e rate of fire, muzzle velocity and projectiles weight. He has it set up so that you can fire each pair separately. I don't understand the gun sound value of 0 though, it should be a 1 for a light MG. I don't know what the rounds per gun were on this aircraft but it looks to be way too high.

    I find editing the .dp manually is much easier than trying to do it with an utility.

    This is how the the value string for guns is laid out:

    [gunstations] B ;M ;U ;RATE ;MVEL;SEE ;AI T ;AIR ;S ;TR ;HITPTS ;GUN LOCATION ;GUNS UP; ? ; GUNS CROSS ; ?;?;?;? ;WEIGHT
    gunstation.0= 0 ,2 ,1 , 0.08 , 839 , 2 , 0.01 ,550 ,2 ,40 ,1d1*14 , 2.893, 0.243828125,0 ,-0.1196,0 ,0.5525 , 0,0,0,0 ,1.6


    B =FIRING BUTTON 0=MAIN TRIGGER 1=SECONDARY TRIGGER 2=ROCKETS 3=BOMBS
    M =GUN MODEL (MY SOURCE SAYS THIS)/ I SAY IT'S A SYSTEM CODE AND IT MATTERS A GREAT DEAL
    U =UNKNOWN BUT YOU MUST MAKE THIS THE TRIGGER NUMBER PLUS ONE FOR THE GUNS TO FIRE
    RATE =FIRING RATE
    MVEL =MUZZLE VELOCITY
    SEE(LATER?)=SOURCE SAYS TIME TRACERS ARE VISIBLE/I SAY ITS AGRESSIVENESS FOR WINGMEN
    AI T =AI FIRING TIME
    AIR =AI PLANES FIRE AT THIS RANGE
    S =SOUND OF THE GUN
    TR =TRACER PERCENTAGE/MOST TIMES VALUE=40 (100% MEANS YOU ONLY FIRE BLANKS)
    HITPTS. =HIT POINTS
    GUNS UP =DECREASING THIS NUMBER TOWARDS MORE NEGATIVE(-) VALUES MAKES THE GUN FIRE HIGHER(ELEVATION)
    ? =UNKNOWN EFFECT ON GUN/POSITION/STRENGTH OR EFFECTIVENESS (DETAILS OF RESEARCH TO FOLLOW)
    GUNS CROSS =CHANGES THE LATERAL ANGLE OF FIRE(WINDAGE)
    WEIGHT =WEIGHT POUNDS/ROUND

    Attached is Vincent Farnham's .dp tutorial which I find is the best that has been done. Read through it and you can use it to set up the guns how you like.

    gunstations_explained.zip
    Cheers,

    Captain Kurt
    ------------------------------------------------------
    "Fly, you fools!" Gandalf the Gray

  6. #6
    Thank you Captain Kurt very much!

    The reason I think it's for 20mm/cannon is because the HUD reads: "cannon 2000 rounds" and the Japanese Ki-27 goes down like a feather with the shortest burst. The sources I have fir the early models of thr I-15bis show 4 7. 62 mm but no ammo count. I would assume 300-500 per gun, max. The I-153 (the "P" variant had 2-20mm and 2 7.762mm mgs but the total 2000 rounds fo cannon is, in my opinion, way too high.

    I will look over the doc you attached and try again th "fix" the dps of both planes. Incidentally, I have the same large ammo totals for the gun and cannon armed I-16. I guess the designer, xavierb, liked large ammo totals as opposed to setting of "unlimited ammo."
    "De Oppresso Liber"

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