Battle For Europe Problem

**Devildog73** · May 4th, 2020, 15:48

Originally Posted by highpockets

Devildog 73
How do you determine which objects are CFS 1 to remove?

They are marked with an *name in mdlnames.txt and are listed as such in descript.dat.
("AAA_gun"=*Antiaircraft Gun Large)(# AAA_gun Large antiaircraft gun battery (CFS1 object).)(aaa_gun.dp)
So, I open up the mdlnames & descript & objects_dp all at the same time and split the screen in thirds showing each one next to each other.

I then remove 10 at a time, 1st from objects, then descript, then mdlnames.
Once I delete 10 from each file, I delete all flielist.dat, *.cdp, and INDEX.
I then start CFS2, choose a plane in freeflight or a single mission.
I don't fly it, just start the sim and esc out once the engine starts.
Then, shut down CFS2, and do it all again until I have all CFS1 objects and references removed.
It takes hours to do it. CFS2 does NOT like when you remove more than 10 or so from each list.
I have to follow the exact same routine or I screw up.
Once you have ALL CFS1 stuff removed, go into scenedb\library\scenery folder and delete: scenery_cfs_library and the filelist.dat in there.
THAT is the final step.
NOW you are ready to install ALL of your CFS2 scenery files and objects without running into overloading descript and mdlnames.

**Devildog73** · May 4th, 2020, 15:55

Originally Posted by Captain Kurt

You've a big project then.

I expect you just misstated what you meant, but the stall, cruise, max speeds, ceilings are all in the .air file and to a lesser extent, the .cfg file, not the .dp

These are my go to references for gun dp values in case they might be valuable for you and save you some time on research.

Attachment 75896

Actually, NO.

I did not know they were in air file for speeds, ceilings, etc..
I have looked for them in there before and never seem to find them.

***Rami*** · May 4th, 2020, 16:04

Devildog73,

I went through the readme and am changing several of the aircraft.

I am changing the older Akemi Fw-190 and Paul Rebuffat Bf-109 models to the Team Daedalus versions...

Team Daedalus FW190A-5 JG2: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=54&id=18340

Team Daedalus FW190A-8R8 JG4: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=54&id=18381

Messerschmitt Bf109G-6 12./JG26: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=54&id=24739

Messerschmitt Bf109G-2 updates: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=54&id=23378

Akemi Mizoguchi Focke-Wulf FW190D-9 Upgrade V2: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=54&id=23594

Allied aircraft

DCC P-38J Lightning_update_with_fix: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=52&id=25267

FDG2 P-51B Mustang 20th FG: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=52&id=17507

FDG2 F6F Hellcat FAA skinpack ETO UT: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=58&id=20872

**Captain Kurt** · May 4th, 2020, 16:32

Originally Posted by Devildog73

Actually, NO.

I did not know they were in air file for speeds, ceilings, etc..
I have looked for them in there before and never seem to find them.

Hi DD

It's not that straight forward unfortunately. I REALLY wish it was. The game engine processes the values in the .air file and some in the .cfg files and then produces the performance of the aircraft in the game. Many, many different values go into it. Too many to just list here but it sounds like you have opened the .air files with AirEd. So you have seen how many individual values are involved to produce a plane flying in CFS2. Some values you can only see if you have a copy of AirWrench. With AirWrench you can input the desired speed, stall and climb numbers which then calculates the values you see when you open the .air file with AirEd. But even then AirWrench often does not result in the desired performance. CFS2 just is not that sophisticated so it requires a ton of hand editing and test, test, test to produce a finished set of flight files.

The .dp is only for the damage profile of the aircraft, the type of aircraft, the date the aircraft entered service, nationality, the guns and other weapons, but no performance values.

Rami Nice to see the updated planes getting used!

***Rami*** · May 4th, 2020, 18:13

Devildog73,

Add Andrew Wai's Mustang 2.0 to the list: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=52&id=25411

**highpockets** · May 4th, 2020, 18:36

Rami
Thanks for the answer to CFS 1 objects.

**Devildog73** · May 5th, 2020, 04:19

Highpockets,
You are most welcome.

Rami and Captain Kurt,

Here is a screen shot of my map view in Battle For Europe.
I checked everything, INCLUDING putting the last entry from my pristine CFS2 OEM install airbase.dat.
[runway.236]
id=8050
name=Gasmata
base_lat=S6 15.77
base_lon=E150 20.22
base_alt=0
heading=223
allegiance=0
units_across=2
takeoff_start_pos=-400,0
takeoff_stop_pos=1600,200
landing_start_pos=5000,350
landing_touchdown_pos=500,0
landing_stop_pos=-250,0

The little "box", "arrow", "whatever at the bottom did not transfer to the post but it is there in the dat file in all of my installs.

**Devildog73** · May 5th, 2020, 04:51

I am fortunate.
I have two computers.
My Windows 7 PC is for Mission Building because I cannot build under Windows 10.

When I fly the pristine CFS2 under Windows 7 and bring up the map view, ALL is well. All of the Japanese and US airfields are marked, just like the ETO below on the Windows 10 PC.

My Windows 10 is the more powerful and I fly quite a bit on it when my wife or I do not have school work to do or business.

Here is the map view as it should look: (from my Windows 10 PC)....

**Devildog73** · May 5th, 2020, 04:54

Rami,
Thanks for the updated aircraft.

Switching them out.......

***Rami*** · May 5th, 2020, 07:25

Originally Posted by Devildog73

Rami,
Thanks for the updated aircraft.

Switching them out.......

Devildog73,

Add this one to the list...

Messerschmitt Bf109K-4 updates: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=54&id=23377

**Devildog73** · May 6th, 2020, 04:19

Really nice camera work of P-47s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_dYBOgLbHc

**Devildog73** · May 6th, 2020, 06:40

[Mission file error]
error=Unit 9339 needs to be a member of a formation
title=Battle for Europe (Allied) - Holland rodeo roundup
filename=C:\Users\Leland\ETO_BforE\Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 2\CAMPAIGNS\Battle for Europe (Allied) 1

**highpockets** · May 11th, 2020, 17:09

Rami or Devildog73
This install calls for the B24 Guy's B-24J modification. Says the link is broken.

***The B24 Guy*** · May 11th, 2020, 17:14

Hi Highpockets,

That was a AC that Allen did. Do a search for models by Allen and you should be able to find it.

Regards,
B24Guy

**highpockets** · May 11th, 2020, 18:39

Thanks
Good to hear "straight from the horses mouth" as we as around here.

***Rami*** · May 12th, 2020, 02:18

Highpockets and Devildog73,

So that I can kill multiple birds with only a couple of shots, I am currently going through and am going to do a comprehensive auto-installer for the following 1943-1945 campaigns...

20th Fighter Group
56th Fighter Group (Completed)
357th Fighter Group (Completed)
486th Fighter Group
A Bridge at Remagen
Battle for Europe
Battle of the Bulge
Dora and Pfeil
Double Trouble
FAA - The Tirpitz missions (Completed)
JV 44 - Stormbirds in the Sky
Mosquito Squadron
Operation Frantic
Operation Leader (Completed)
Royal Canadian Air Force
Spitfire campaign

It's easier and quicker to do one auto-installer when 75-80% of the aircraft and ships are the same, and you've already built much of the scenery.

**Devildog73** · May 12th, 2020, 08:38

Rather Rare Oddity,,,,,

I've been so focused upon flying and then "Xing" out of the sim before landing to keep wingmen from crashing and losing their scores that I haven't noticed until this morning:

NONE of my airfields have buildings, NONE.
I have vehicles.
I have scenery aircraft.

This oddity is on all three of my ETO installs; Battle of Britain, Battle of France, & Battle for Europe. No buildings.

I have plenty of the called for buildings in my OBJECTS_DP folder. I have plenty of those buildings in my SCENEDB folder. I have them listed in my MDLNAMES.TXT.
I have GSL managered them into the CFS2.gsl which is over 10,000KB....
My graphics sliders are maxed out.

Where are my buildings?

**Devildog73** · May 12th, 2020, 08:43

Super cool Mann!

Originally Posted by Rami

Highpockets and Devildog73,

So that I can kill multiple birds with only a couple of shots, I am currently going through and am going to do a comprehensive auto-installer for the following 1943-1945 campaigns...

20th Fighter Group
56th Fighter Group (Completed)
357th Fighter Group (Completed)
486th Fighter Group
A Bridge at Remagen
Battle for Europe
Battle of the Bulge
Dora and Pfeil
Double Trouble
FAA - The Tirpitz missions (Completed)
JV 44 - Stormbirds in the Sky
Mosquito Squadron
Operation Frantic
Operation Leader (Completed)
Royal Canadian Air Force
Spitfire campaign

It's easier and quicker to do one auto-installer when 75-80% of the aircraft and ships are the same, and you've already built much of the scenery.

***Rami*** · May 12th, 2020, 11:34

Originally Posted by Devildog73

Rather Rare Oddity,,,,,

I've been so focused upon flying and then "Xing" out of the sim before landing to keep wingmen from crashing and losing their scores that I haven't noticed until this morning:

NONE of my airfields have buildings, NONE.
I have vehicles.
I have scenery aircraft.

This oddity is on all three of my ETO installs; Battle of Britain, Battle of France, & Battle for Europe. No buildings.

I have plenty of the called for buildings in my OBJECTS_DP folder. I have plenty of those buildings in my SCENEDB folder. I have them listed in my MDLNAMES.TXT.
I have GSL managered them into the CFS2.gsl which is over 10,000KB....

My graphics sliders are maxed out.

Where are my buildings?

Lee,

Try deleting all of your filelist.dat files and allow them to re-generate.

**highpockets** · May 12th, 2020, 14:53

Rami
WOW How many missions will that be?? Wear out my joystick.

Glad to know your plans because I have 20th, 486th and Frantic already installed and have 357th and many of the others on the "tarmac" ready to install.
Just so many hours in the day and too many other theaters and missions to fly!

***Rami*** · May 12th, 2020, 16:30

Jim.

There has been some discussion between myself, Captain Kurt, and Devildog73 about having one installer for multiple campaigns in the Late ETO theatre. The mission count? It will be "more than a few."

**highpockets** · May 12th, 2020, 17:03

Yup for sure

**Fibber** · May 14th, 2020, 10:37

.....go to Cfs2 Utilities , page 3 , then scroll down to the tenth item. There is a download there by ckessling. That is the late greatly missed Kelli. It is entitled cfs1_objects_multi install. Download it and be guided by it. He will guide you through it.

**Fibber** · May 14th, 2020, 12:53

...forgot to add that on page one you had asked about how do you know what are CFS 1 objects in CFS 2. That is what my previous post referred to. Also, if you want I found a list I had made of CFS1 objects in Cfs 2.