"Time is God's way of keeping everything from happening at once"
Well, that leaves me out! MY Windows 10 upgraded to 1809 a few months ago, but absolutely will not update to 1903 0r 1909.
My laptop is 1903, my wife's just finished going to 1903 a few days ago. My flightsim rig will not allow 1903 0r 1909 to install. Bummer. Guess I will be staying with P3Dv4.5 and v5 for now.
Don H
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI/BT
64GB Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz DDR5 C40 (4x16)
Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX7900XT 20GB DDR6
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case
Corsair RM850x 80+ GOLD P/S
Liquid Freezer II 360 water cooling
C:/ WD Black 4TB SN770 Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD
D:/ Crucial P3 PLUS 4TB Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD
Samsung 32" Curved Monitor
Honeycomb and Saitek Flight Equipment
I'm good on the Ideal Specs on all parameters and VR ready. I was initially worried about the server data flow but I have 120mbps net so I am plenty good to go. So I will be making the jump as soon as it comes out.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Are we surprised that the latest and most annoying version of W10 is mandatory?
Not at all.
"Illegitimum non carborundum".
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Samsung 4TB SSD, 860 PRO Series, 2.5" SATA III x4
Corsair 1600W Titanium Series AX1600i Power Supply, 80 PLUS Titanium,
ASUS 43inch ROG Swift 4K UHD G-Sync VA Gaming Monitor, 3840x2160, HDR 1000, 1ms, 144Hz,
Innovative SIN?
Joking aside, MS wants everything under the one platform.
Monopolies always aim for total control.
Not everyone wants or can operate that way, and while W7 might be 'obsolete' it seems to be capable enough for very many users.
I really don't want a PC that tries to mimic a smartphone, and I really hate the way W10 attempts to break my graphic programs.
Strange term 'obsolete', one might apply that term to my 'obsolete' 40+ year old flat 6 that can out run most current vehicles without breaking a sweat.................
But I digress, I've yet to see any decent 'benefits' with W10 over W7, other than the 'smartphone' appeal to the Millennials.
Whatever floats yer boat.
"Illegitimum non carborundum".
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Samsung 4TB SSD, 860 PRO Series, 2.5" SATA III x4
Corsair 1600W Titanium Series AX1600i Power Supply, 80 PLUS Titanium,
ASUS 43inch ROG Swift 4K UHD G-Sync VA Gaming Monitor, 3840x2160, HDR 1000, 1ms, 144Hz,
....They sure try hard to herd us all into Windows 10.
With retirement approaching I think it's just about time to buy back into a real world float plane. I understand that the graphic resolution, effects, and general physical dynamics may actually approach that of the upcoming Microsoft Flight Sim.
The Windows 10 compatibility is merely a standby in case you're away from your XBox and want to play your sim on your Windows 10 smartphone or tablet while commuting for example. If you're serious about this sim, get an XBox.
Bandwidth ? No subscribe, no sim, I guess ....
Cheers, MZee ...
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All white "Arctic" build.
Believe it or not I believe I fit the requirements.
ASUS TUF F17 Gaming Laptop
17.3" 144Hz Full HD IPS-Type
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Ram CORSAIR Vengeance 32.0 GB DDR4 3200
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU 6GB
Thank you for the heads-up, Ted. Getting ever more anxious for this new sim to arrive when it's ready!
With regard to Windows10/Xbox, Microsoft/Asobo have said all along that their main focus was development of the sim for hardcore PC sim users, on the Windows10 platform, and that it is a true flight simulator, unlike MS Flight (in their own words). The development of the sim for Xbox is an extension off of the development for PC/Windows10, not the other way around. Asobo's own employees are using the sim all of the time, and they use it on PC's with joysticks and rudder pedals, etc., not Xbox controllers.
With regard to bandwidth requirements - in order to see the sim with all of the new, stunning real world graphics (based on satellite data, photogrammetry cities and vast AI-based autogen the world over), you'll need to have an active internet connection to connect to the Microsoft servers so as to have access to that over 2 petabytes of data (there's no other way of doing it). My understanding is that the speed of your internet connection and your frame rate determines how much and at what quality of scenery is actively displayed. You don't need an internet connection to use the sim, but the scenery will be more generic without it (like stock FSX/P3D type scenery, from what I've heard). Also, you can cash the downloaded scenery while you're flying on the internet connection, and then you can fly in that same area, with the same full-quality/detailed scenery, without being connected on the internet.
Last edited by Bomber_12th; April 22nd, 2020 at 15:08.
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ASUS TUF F17 Gaming Laptop
17.3" 144Hz Full HD IPS-Type
CPU 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz 2.30 GHz
Ram CORSAIR Vengeance 32.0 GB DDR4 3200
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU 6GB
Three observations:
You'll eventually want 8GB vram or more. Lots of stuff going on in the graphics card. Vram more important then speed. You can still get a fairly cheap AMD RX 580 in 8GB.
There is an offline mode for those with streaming issues. It will be much better than the FSX landclass/vector scenery.
The latest flight simulator in the series was always a showcase for the latest version of DirectX. I'm a bit surprised they are not forcing a DX12 version.
"Illegitimum non carborundum".
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X D-RGB Tempered Glass ATX Galaxy Silver
Intel Core i9 10980XE Extreme Edition X
ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore MB
Corsair Vengeance LPX 128GB (8x16GB), PC4-30400 (3800MHz) DDR4
Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX White Liquid CPU Cooler, 240mm Radiator, 2x ML120 RGB PWM Fans
Samsung 4TB SSD, 860 PRO Series, 2.5" SATA III x4
Corsair 1600W Titanium Series AX1600i Power Supply, 80 PLUS Titanium,
ASUS 43inch ROG Swift 4K UHD G-Sync VA Gaming Monitor, 3840x2160, HDR 1000, 1ms, 144Hz,
150 GB HDD space..? Time to buy another SSD I guess!
As for the minimum specs: Try finding those for the original FsX..
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Cheers, MZee ...
W11, Ryzen 9 7950X3D, GeForce RTX 4090 AERO OC, ROG Strix X670E-A Gaming, G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 CL30 AMD EXPO 32GB (2), Kraken Z73 360mm, Lian Li UniFan SL120 V2 (10), Samsung 990 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe 2TB (4), MEG Ai1300P, Lian Li O11D XL, Logitech Z906 5.1, T16000M FCS HOTAS, Xbox Controller, Acer Nitro XV282K 4K UHD LED.
All white "Arctic" build.
That screenshot is only describing the *hardware* requirements to enjoy the sim.
It's not telling anything about subscriptions.
The bandwith number here indicates the minimum internet connection speed needed to enjoy the "online" mode of the sim scenery. And if you opt for precache mode, then this doesn't matter anymore.
Don H
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WIFI/BT
64GB Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz DDR5 C40 (4x16)
Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX7900XT 20GB DDR6
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case
Corsair RM850x 80+ GOLD P/S
Liquid Freezer II 360 water cooling
C:/ WD Black 4TB SN770 Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD
D:/ Crucial P3 PLUS 4TB Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD
Samsung 32" Curved Monitor
Honeycomb and Saitek Flight Equipment
What "subscriptions?" This was cleared up months ago that one will not need a subscription for access to the cloud streaming service if one buys the sim outright.
If one prefers, they can "rent" the sim via a monthly Gamepass subscription, and have access to any of the other software on offer from MS.
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