info on Bordeaux Merignac needed

[ian elliot]

Thought it would be an idea to retro the stock Merignac for the FW200 and He177. There's plenty of info on modern airport but nothing on its past. I can just about figure aprons from old photo's and google earth but i'd really like runway length's, Modern runways are 10000ft and 7000ft respectfully and thats to long for WW2, although im guessing a FW200 need a lot of runway, i just dont know how much? Any thoughts gentlemen

PS, this isnt a full blown scenery, just getting it to look better

[huub vink]

Surface and Runways: good grass surface on clay sub-soil with artificial drainage. There were 2 concrete runways: (1) approx. 1830 meters (2000yards) in length, aligned NE/SW, with an assembly hardstand at the S end;(2) approx. 1800 meters (1970 yards) in length, aligned ESE/WSW, with assembly hardstands at both ends. Equipped with perimeter and obstruction lighting,and both runways had permanent illumination, beam approach and a visual Lorenz system. The taxi tracks to the East dispersal area also had lighting.

source: Luftwaffe Airfields 1935-45 - France (with Corsica and Channel Islands) By Henry L. deZeng IV

When you still have your British telecom e-mail address, I will send you the complete document.

Cheers,
Huub

BTW. If you will have to stay inside your home due to the Covid-19 crisis... here you can find the complete library: https://www.ww2.dk/lwairfields.html

[ian elliot]

Thanks for that link Huub, ive seen his documents for Germany, but ive never seen all the regions in one place, i'll have great interest looking through all of those

[Jorge]

Hi,

Here are two links to two different albums with over 200+ photographs regarding Marseilles:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/125303...57709614012252
https://www.flickr.com/photos/125303...57713458532551

Jon has a collections that will make your mouth water when it comes to older airports around the world. There are a few that have photos and scans from a 1940 book, but I'm not sure which ones are in that particular book. He has them sorted by airport and city, not by the year.

Here is another site that has charts from 1946-1955 which could be of help. They are for Germany (post war occupation), France, and French possessions, colonies, and territories. The names used are the names in use at the time, not what they are now, so you may have to research what they may be:

http://memoire.aviation-civile.gouv....lder&folder=93

Oh, and it's in French as well. Not very difficult to make out what you need/want, but google can help with that as well.

Hope this helps!

Regards and stay healthy,

Jorge
Miami, FL

PS: What platform would this be for? CFS2 or FS9? Just wondering since we were looking at doing a retro for the same airport for the mid-50's or early-60's for FS9 and would be grateful if there was a chance to reuse some things if possible. As for me, I was hoping to work on a version for FS9 in 1939-1940 at some point in the future. How compatible are the CFS2 airfields with FS9? Thanks!

[ian elliot]

Hi Jorge, there's some lovely pics in those links and ive bookmaked the "memoire" site, but i think you've got the wrong airfield, its Bordeaux im interested in, but the spelling is very similar.
It will be for FS9 and its not going to be very detail'd, if i ever get around to it. Ive just had a look at the Calclassic 1950's version and i think its pretty close, esp when ive read the info Huub put me on too. i thought there was a lot of post war development, but much seems to have been around pre war also. thanks for your input guys

[Jorge]

Ian,

Oops! Sorry about that! I figured you were speaking of the Marignane since Merignac was made, but for 1961. It's at Flightsim.com I believe. They did an awesome job on that one, but I see you're looking for the earlier version of the field. I believe that Jon does indeed have the Bordeaux one in the 1940 era, however.

Good luck!

Regards,

Jorge
Miami, FL

[ian elliot]

No probs Jorge, this is half hours work, close enough from the available info i think

[Jorge]

Ian,

Looks nice! I thought this may help:

http://memoire.aviation-civile.gouv....7-Fae-0911.pdf

It's the chart published 25 April 1951. There is also another one in black and white on the same site from March 1946:

http://memoire.aviation-civile.gouv..../bordeaux1.pdf

http://memoire.aviation-civile.gouv..../bordeaux2.pdf

Hope these help and keep up the great work!

Regards,

Jorge
Miami, FL

[ian elliot]

Thats perfect, thank you, i'll have to redo my version but not by much, thanks again