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    FSX Grumman Goose HD Redux V1.2 ..... Revisited

    Believe it or not, I never flew the FSX default Goose much, mainly because of the many quirks it had.
    Once I was hooked on Milton's AI Bounty and Victory models, in a desperate attempt to find a suitable AC to follow them, .... I decided to give it another shot.

    I downloaded the totally all inclusive, latest, and very much improved version -the "OZx Goose HD Redux" from here :
    https://www.lockonfiles.com/files/fi...-hd-redux-v12/

    This version simply installs over the default FSX Goose and changes a lot of folders in the process, all for the better. Remember to do a backup of the original FSX Goose beforehand. You will still have the original repaints, plus several 'new' HD repaints as well, along with two engine versions for the choosing.

    Repaints in HD are not that common, unfortunately. The SOH library has several beauties by Jankees, @trucker17 .. ; Avsim also has several by George Arana, Jankees and others. Be sure to look for the HD Redux version if want detailed skins.

    VC lighting is a bit 'dark' for my taste (YMMV), ... so I added another light entry to the aircraft.config :

    [LIGHTS]
    //Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing
    light.5 = 1, -16.3, -0.26, 4.5, fx_beacon ,
    light.7 = 4, 1.60, 0.00, 2.70, fx_vclight,
    light.8 = 4, -1.485, -1.33, 3.02, fx_vclight
    //light.9 = 4, -1.485, 1.43, 3.02, fx_vclight

    Steering (land/water) can be manipulated by changing these two entries :

    [contact_points]
    //0 Class (1=wheel and 5=a 'fake' water rudder)
    //1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
    //2 Lateral Position (feet)
    //3 Vertical Position (feet)
    //4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
    //5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
    //6 Wheel Radius (feet)
    //7 Steer Angle (degrees)
    //8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
    //9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
    //10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
    //11 Extension Time (seconds)
    //12 Retraction Time (seconds)
    //13 Sound Type
    //14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)
    //15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)
    //GEAR
    point.0 = 1, -20.4, 0.00, -2.902, 7500, 0, 0.52, 60, 0.42, 4.0, 0.90, 5.0, 4.0, 0, 195, 250
    point.1 = 1, -0.8, -3.75, -5.0, 7500, 1, 1.25, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.85, 6.0, 5.0, 2, 195, 250
    point.2 = 1, -0.8, 3.75, -5.0, 7500, 2, 1.25, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.85, 7.0, 6.0, 3, 195, 250
    //FLOATS
    point.3=4, 3.589, -2.692, -2.2, 7500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0
    point.4=4, 3.589, 2.691, -2.2, 7500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0
    point.5=4, -15.249, -1.794, -1.25, 4500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0, 0 // pos 1 was -15.249 pos 3 was -1.25
    point.6=4, -15.249, 1.794, -1.25, 4500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0, 0 // pos 1 was -15.249 pos 3 was -1.25
    //Wing Floats
    point.7=4, -2.45,-20.3, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 12.0, 12.0, 5, 0, 0
    point.8=4, -2.45, 20.3, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 14.0, 14.0, 5, 0, 0
    //point.7=4, -2.45,-16.146, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 12.0, 12.0, 5, 0, 0
    //point.8=4, -2.45, 16.146, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 14.0, 14.0, 5, 0, 0
    point.9=5, -15.5, 0.0, -1.73, 0, 0, 0.0, 30, 0.00, 0.0, 1.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0 // position 7 was 20

    I am not one for window reflections in the VC. Prefer to see the scenery without shadows on glass.
    To do this, I DL this handy set of files and chose the Goose one to replace in the config :
    https://flyawaysimulation.com/downlo...t-reflections/

    The Redux water spray and wake effects are beautiful when viewed from the outside, but intrude into the VC view.
    To eliminate the water spray effect from being seen inside the VC, I went back to the default files, by making the following changes :

    [EFFECTS]
    wake= fx_wake
    water= fx_spray
    //wake=fx_wake_Goose_Redux
    //water=fx_spray_Goose_Redux

    startup=fx_engstart_Goose_Redux
    dirt=fx_tchdrt
    concrete=fx_sparks
    touchdown=fx_tchdwn_s, 1

    To add a GPS to the VC (besides the 2D pop-up panel), here's a handy mod by @Cirrus N210MS :
    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/98706-Grumman-Goose-HD-GPS-VC-Installed-zip

    If aircraft keeps stalling when throttle at idle, make this change in aircraft config :

    [GeneralEngineData]
    engine_type = 0 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop
    Engine.0 = 3.589, -5.837, 4.41 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum
    Engine.1 = 3.589, 5.837, 4.41 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum
    fuel_flow_scalar= 1.0 //0.43 //Fuel flow scalar
    min_throttle_limit = 0.10; //Minimum percent throttle. Generally negative for turbine reverser was = -0.25 originally




    Last edited by MZee1960; March 7th, 2020 at 21:53.
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    Here's a few pics of the eye candy that was hatched by the brilliant modellers at OZx .







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    @greyeagle ......... In the other thread, you were asking about an 'Expansion pack' for the Goose ?

    This V1.2 HD Redux has it, plus everything is up to date (..in other words - there are no newer versions that I am aware of).

    I am hoping this thread will bring some additional mods, ideas, repaints and input from the wonderful people here at SOH to keep this beauty flying well into the future !


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    Very nice images, thanks for sharing.

    The tongue-in-cheek side of my nature is perked up by the yellow goose (5W-GTA). I'm amazed how 24ST Alclad could "rust-up" like that.

    I guess that's why Grumman was referred to as the "Iron works."

    ...I know, I know..........

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    Currently looking for 'Mount Cook Airlines' and 'N39FG' HD repaints for the OZx Grumman Goose Redux v1.2 with the enhanced textures and bumps.
    Anyone know of a place to DL these beauties from ? They used to be available from OZx.
    Cheers, MZee ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gray eagle View Post


    Hi Butch,

    Yes, one of several beauties by Jankees for the Catalina Island Area.

    I wonder if he's ever done the Mount Cook Airlines repaint for the HD Redux Goose ?
    Cheers, MZee ...

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    Mount Cook, no, this is the only kiwi paint I did:
    jk2154
    You can find most of my repaints for FSX/P3D in the library here on the outhouse.
    For MFS paints go to flightsim.to

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    Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankees View Post
    Mount Cook, no, this is the only kiwi paint I did:
    jk2154

    That's a beauty, for sure, Jankees !

    I have all your paints in the SOH library, but for some reason the HD Redux Mount Cook livery eludes me. I think @grey eagle is also looking for this one.
    Cheers, MZee ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvj View Post

    That paint looks perfect in the tropics, don't it ? I love the 'patina' !
    Great shot, @dvj !
    Cheers, MZee ...

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    Tires looking a bit 'flat' ?

    When standing on tarmac, if the landing gear tires look a bit low on air to you, ... here's a fix :

    Go to the aircraft config (for each of the two versions), and change to these numbers shown in red, after backing-up the original, of course -

    [contact_points]
    //0 Class
    //1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
    //2 Lateral Position (feet)
    //3 Vertical Position (feet)
    //4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
    //5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
    //6 Wheel Radius (feet)
    //7 Steer Angle (degrees)
    //8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
    //9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
    //10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
    //11 Extension Time (seconds)
    //12 Retraction Time (seconds)
    //13 Sound Type
    //14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)
    //15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)
    //GEAR
    point.0 = 1, -20.4, 0.00, -3.112, 7500, 0, 0.52, 60, 0.42, 4.0, 0.90, 5.0, 4.0, 0, 195, 250 // pos 3 was -2.902
    point.1 = 1, -0.8, -3.75, -5.205, 7500, 1, 1.25, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.85, 6.0, 5.0, 2, 195, 250 // pos 3 was -5.0
    point.2 = 1, -0.8, 3.75, -5.205, 7500, 2, 1.25, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.85, 7.0, 6.0, 3, 195, 250 // pos 3 was -5.0
    //FLOATS
    point.3=4, 3.589, -2.692, -2.2, 7500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0
    point.4=4, 3.589, 2.691, -2.2, 7500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0
    point.5=4, -15.249, -1.794, -1.25, 4500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0, 0
    point.6=4, -15.249, 1.794, -1.25, 4500, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0, 0
    //Wing Floats
    point.7=4, -2.45,-20.3, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 12.0, 12.0, 5, 0, 0
    point.8=4, -2.45, 20.3, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 14.0, 14.0, 5, 0, 0
    //point.7=4, -2.45,-16.146, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 12.0, 12.0, 5, 0, 0
    //point.8=4, -2.45, 16.146, -1.73, 3700, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.50, 2.5, 0.70, 14.0, 14.0, 5, 0, 0
    point.9=5, -15.5, 0.0, -2.1, 0, 0, 0.0, 30, 0.00, 0.0, 1.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0 // position 7 was 20

    This may have also eliminated (fixed) the strange 'water splashing effect' from the vicinity of the tailwheel region when aircraft is sitting still in the water, which I saw on random occasions in the external views.
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    I want to repaint this beautiful bird. Does any one still got the paintkit? Really sad that their website is still down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banktav View Post
    I want to repaint this beautiful bird. Does any one still got the paintkit? Really sad that their website is still down.
    Have you tried to PM 'jankees', at all ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by magoo View Post
    Very nice images, thanks for sharing.

    The tongue-in-cheek side of my nature is perked up by the yellow goose (5W-GTA). I'm amazed how 24ST Alclad could "rust-up" like that.

    I guess that's why Grumman was referred to as the "Iron works."

    ...I know, I know..........
    It's actually the yellow paint that's rusting, part of the yellow tint is iron particles ....


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    A few random shots in one of the early versions of P3D, which still work in the latest versions.
    As mentioned even the some of the original 'HD' textures are a little below the present day level produced by our resident 'Aces'.






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    Brilliant pics

    Is there any chance to get a copy of the Mount Cook textures please?

    Thanks.

    Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MZee1960 View Post
    Have you tried to PM 'jankees', at all ?
    Will try PM him. Thank you.

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    I personally also would love to have a copy of the 'Mt.Cook Airlines' repaint, please.

    Hopefully it can be made available somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteHam View Post
    Brilliant pics

    Is there any chance to get a copy of the Mount Cook textures please?

    Thanks.

    Pete.
    Let me figure out the best way to do so and I'll be very happy to oblige.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat666 View Post
    Let me figure out the best way to do so and I'll be very happy to oblige.

    Thank-you.
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    Ozx Grumman Goose HD paintkit available at the following link. All credit due to the original authors.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1wg6098nfc...ntkit.rar?dl=0

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    Just brought this over from my now-defunct FSX install into P3D4.5 - what a beauty. Looks and flies beautifully - thanks to all the authors and contributors.

    Small question - steering in water, even with differential power, just doesn't give good results - massive turn radius. I think I recall there being a "fake water rudder" fix or something along those lines - was that the trick, or does someone have another suggestion?

    thanks,

    dl

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    While we're discussing the Goose Redux, The Collings Foundation Grumman Goose paint is in the library :-)













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    The Collings Foundation Grumman Goose paint is in the library :-)
    Not that I could find. Searched "N985R", "Goose" and "Collings."
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