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    Herdla Luftwaffe airfield, Norway

    Were heading to Norway next

    An important airfield for the Luftwaffe 10 miles north of Bergen. Home to Me110, Me109 and FW190 units
    Although there a few good maps of the airfield, MS have'nt put much work into accuratly modeling the coastline of this area, so i had to take a few liberties in making the airfield fit the landscape, its not perfect but i like to think its pretty close


    There is a seaplane start for seaplane fan's
    The Arado scenery object is originally Alphasim freeware model, SteveB has done some good repaints for this model, you can download them and replace the texture's in the Herdla/texture folder


    The only objects you'll need is---
    Wolfi_Obj_lib.zip, JD's conversion of Wolfi's CFS2 objects.

    You've probably figured this out, but you need one or two of my other Luft airfields installed for the objects to show
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    Thanks Ian! An interesting airfield at a beautiful location.

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    Herdla Luftwaffe airfield, Norway

    Hallo Ian,
    thank you also from my side.
    need to wear my flying suit with heating
    Yours
    Papi
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    Thank you Ian, especially for the water runway. A rare thing to find, (outside USA), in FS9.
    David

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    To add a bit to this nice scenery I have done this repaint. It is the Focke Wulf FW 190 A-8 WNr.350185 "Blue 9" of 7./III./JG 5 flown by Staffelkapitn Oblt.Karl-Heinz Koch from Herdla, Hordaland. The aircraft is best known from a grainy black & white pictures, made after the aircraft crash landed at Herdla somewhere in spring 1945.I will make the repaint available soon.







    A question for Ian: Is it possible for you to convent Akemi's FW190-A8 to a .blg object and pace a few at Herdla? I see you have found the repaint of Rudi Artner's white 10 done by Chris Nlte, which was stationed at Herdla as well.

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    You do fine work Huub. You really do!

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    im not great with MDLconX, but i'll have a try Huub, wondering if permission would be a problem but will check

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    Thanks for considering Ian. I don't think Akemi (Hago-Chu) and Chris Nlte had any other restrictions than commercial use. When you don't succeed, I could do an attempt to create some traffic with ttools. However I wonder whether its possible to get Akemi's FW190 flying as AI as it seems to have the usual CFS2 into FS2004 problems, like (very) nose heavy and far too much drag....

    Thanks again for your attempts

    Huub

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    For those who want it: The Karl-Heinz Koch repaint is available in the library.

    The real thing at Herdla :


    Cheers,
    Huub

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    Quote Originally Posted by huub vink View Post
    For those who want it: The Karl-Heinz Koch repaint is available in the library.

    The real thing at Herdla :


    Cheers,
    Huub
    Looks like a bit of Koch-up of a landing....

    Very nice Ian thanks a lot.

    Shessi

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    ai cfs2 Fw 190

    Hallo Huub, and friends,

    yes I allso observed this phenomen with CFS2 ac to have bizarre flight dynamics.
    For example it did cost me a lot of cigarettes and trial flights to get the GC-Bf110 series to fly correctly.
    Also the fs9 version was horrible nose heavy.
    Now I have them to fly at 75% percent power at 5000m with a trim which is very close to neutral.
    I still work on the Bf110G-4, but you can test my airfile I joined at the Bf110G-2 panel.
    So If you want I can try to make the FW190 flying neutral at 50-75% power setting
    Yours
    Papi

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    Koch's Fw 190

    Muss ich wirklich alles nachmachen?
    Yours
    Papi
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    I gave up on the static, to many animations to correct But the Akemi's FW190-A8 works surprisingly well, ive made up a traffic file for six, with a slightly modified ADE file, just place in your Herdla/scenery folder, backing up obviously, and see how this works,

    This is the CFG entrie for the 190 with Chris repaint

    [fltsim.xx]
    title=mz-fw190-8 JG5
    sim=mz-fw190-8
    model=
    panel=
    sound=
    texture=JG5
    kb_checklists=
    ui_manufacturer = Focke-Wulf
    ui_type = Fw190A-8
    ui_variation = JG5
    description=Focke-Wulf Fw 190A-8\n\nő呬xF653 km\/h@6,283 m\nőóF1700hp\np㏸xF11,410 m\nF13mm*2@20mm*4
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    Hi Ian,

    Thanks the place looks much more lively. The AI appears as expected and I even noticed one who taxied to the runway. Instead of taking of it went in ultimate camouflage mode and suddenly seemed to have disappeared .
    I was foolish enough to wait next to the AI to see whether it would fly a pattern.......

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    oh. thats interesting, i followed mine into the air for a flight around Bergen, not sure why your's dissapeard, i wonder'd if i was over reaching myself, i'll do a bit of tweaking later

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    Question

    It's possible it's either the collision setting for the ai ac, or if you were watching from another ac Huub, and were too close, that can trigger a 'crash', the other ac will then move away fast from the collision bubble on it's flight path.

    Cheers

    Shessi

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    Herdla Luftwaffe airfield, Norway

    Hallo Gents,
    just tried the new files,
    hmm I believe to have the wrong plane or some thing is going wrong:
    I just have the Arados and two Fw 190 under each a shelter, but no others
    and no traffic, none in the air and none on the runway or taxying.
    just a curious waco crossed over the place.
    I tried different times - --- -
    Yours
    Papi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shessi View Post
    It's possible it's either the collision setting for the ai ac, or if you were watching from another ac Huub, and were too close, that can trigger a 'crash', the other ac will then move away fast from the collision bubble on it's flight path.

    Cheers

    Shessi
    Thanks Ian, but as said I'm already very happy with the filled shelters as it makes the place look far more lively and Akemi's aircraft have hardly any effect on frame rates. (BTW I do use your other airfields as well, in case you wondered! But these already had quite some parked aircraft....)

    @Shessi: Before I decided to wait behind the aircraft at the runway, I had already been circling over the airfield for quite a while. So I don't think it was caused by crash detection. But it doesn't harm to check it again with "crash detection" switched off.

    @Papi: Obviously you do have the correct plane, otherwise there wouldn't be anything in the shelters. So you might face a similar problem as I have, but only in a more severe way......

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelvader View Post
    Hallo Gents,
    just tried the new files,
    hmm I believe to have the wrong plane or some thing is going wrong:
    I just have the Arados and two Fw 190 under each a shelter, but no others
    and no traffic, none in the air and none on the runway or taxying.
    just a curious waco crossed over the place.
    I tried different times - --- -
    Yours
    Papi
    Hi, the Ai is set at 30% , have a look in settings/traffic and make sure your "air_traffic density is 40% or over.
    cheers ian

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    Herdla Luftwaffe airfield, Norway AI ac

    Hallo Friends,

    I jst started ma flightsim,
    the traffic option was set to 100% > one Fw190 outside lift hand facing on the outside shelter,
    and one on a shelter
    now I observed that at every time I start my sim, two aircraft can bee seen but always on different places.
    and no flying or taxying Fw 190's. just some times a waco or an staggerwing
    So the phenomene is fluctant it seems
    Yours Papi

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    Herdla Luftwaffe airfield, AI ac

    Hallo friends again,
    at first I believe that the phenomene of not showing all ac nore ai Fw190 traffic is undepended of the aircraft and its crashboxes.
    Why I pretend that?
    I did an experiance what can sound beeing crazy:
    I put out of my sim Akemis FW190
    I extracted from the Wop Fw 190 A-8 the Koch variant and delated her in this ac folder
    Than I cconverted her as Akemis Fw190A-8 JG5
    outcome:
    the ac is choosable as flying ac and works well
    and now she is seen on two places each one under a shelter - none at outside, no Fw190 on traffic
    Plop
    Yours
    Papi

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    Herdla Luftwaffe airfield, another experiance

    Good evenening friends,
    there another experiance:
    I have alos on my hd a FS2004 GW3 setting as helicopter fs.
    There are some setting differencies.
    So I tented my chance there.
    As you see on the screenie - the same phenomene as on the normal sim
    Yours
    Papi
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    Here's another slightly tweak'd ADE file, everything works fine for me, i get 6 ac on parking with one taking off and flying, hope it works for you
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    This is what I had with the previous traffic file:

    There are 5 AI aircraft at the airfield:
    2 aircraft at the open dispersals (1 and4) from which one aircraft (4)will taxi toward the end of the runway to disappear after a while
    and 3 aircraft inside the shelters (2,3 and 5).

    My traffic density is set on 40%

    Cheers,
    Huub




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    My bad Huub, 5 is the correct number, all present and correct

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