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    Yikes!!!! Well, FSX and FS9 also had icing, but it was just aerodynamic effects and the airspeed indicator would cease accurate functioning. MSFS will also have eye candy icing, so those wing ice lights will actually have a purpose!
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    Thanks for the HU, Ted !

    Just for the record, this same topic at Avsim, atm :

    75 replies,
    6462 views.

    Here at SOH, atm:

    2 replies,
    130 views.

    What is wrong with us ?

    Are we all dutch ??.... ( dutch peeps are known for being sober, abstemious, matter of fact, first see then believe, maybe even uninspired or dull. Being dutch myself i wouldn't really know, would i. ( personally i am far from sober, abstemious or matter of fact'isch about our upcoming brand new MSFS, on ze contrแry, i am bolted over with extacy about it! Can't wait!, Bring it on!, Are we there yet?! and all that ))
    Oh, and btw, these sure are some of the most amazing, beautiful and mouthwatering screenshots coming from a flight simulator i have ever seen !

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    Are we all dutch ??....
    I am, and I'm looking the proverbial cat out of the tree first Jan! Too many disappointments in the past with video games that promised a lot but upon release couldn't deliver.
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    I dunno, it just seems to me that there are fewer and fewer people here at SOH.
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    I don't know if there are fewer people, but I always had the impression that "most" people at SOH were a bit relunctant to modern sims.

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    I’d love to see that effect on helicopters and CC138’s. Especially pictured from Canada’s attic. I don’t look at modern sims performance and effects from a GA sense, more like Bushy, SAR.

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    Also, I’d like know what the sim runs on, ie both windows and Apple os without dumbbell boot camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daube View Post
    I don't know if there are fewer people, but I always had the impression that "most" people at SOH were a bit reluctant to modern sims.

    I think the trend for a very long time has been toward GA and Airlines, allied to 'Combat' sims such as DCS, IL2 and ROF for those inclined to military ops.
    Without checking SOH does tend to have an older membership (mostly) who are relatively conservative.
    The activity in the forums devoted to FS2004, CFS2 and CFS3 is significant.
    I'm with Ferry, having been burnt several times I'm not rushing into this one!
    While my almost completed new system should handle FS2020, it's primary purpose is for photography, not for any sims.
    "Illegitimum non carborundum".

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    I am not Dutch. However, I am old and relatively conservative, and don't come here or any other GS site as often. Still, I for one, am looking forward to this new product from Microsoft. I am hoping it will be more stable and just work. (Hope springs internal in the flightsimmer's breast.) I am so sick of getting FSX/PD3 working right to see a random cosmic particle cause it to go south the very next day. I want a program that will, like Photoshop, MS Word, TurboCAD, Blender, etc. work when I start it up without having to fiddle with it for 30 mins.

    Maybe FS 2020 will work that way? As i said,

    Hope springs internal in the flightsimmer's breast.
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    Just based on the trend that I'm seeing with most new releases associated with Microsoft I'd be betting the Farm on it being only Win 10 compatible.
    Not something that will please many including YHS.

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    It is Win10 only...
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    Fortunately or unfortunately, depending upon your views and experiences, Windows 10 is the future and we will see even fewer add on aircraft compatible with older versions of Windows.
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    For people who want to check if their system will run this thing: (not for Wombat, his rig will run three instances of this sim at the same time)

    https://www.game-debate.com/games/in...ht%20Simulator

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    As Bill mentioned, its already been confirmed as requiring Windows 10, and also that it is DX11-based (not DX12). I'm already committed to this new sim (thanks to some Black Friday deals, I now have a computer to run it that matches what Microsoft are supposedly using (i9 9900k/RTX 2080)), so at this point Microsoft would really have to shoot themselves in the foot to lose my support (in other words, only if they were to start removing features/details they've already been previewing). All of the Alpha testers are bound to an NDA, but I just saw a recent video on Youtube in which one of the Alpha testers spoke of how excited he his for the sim with the in-game experiences he has had already. It sounds like all of the biggest name FS payware 3rd party developers are in the loop as well. I'm excited about the SDK already being previewed next month, and with the actual SDK release expected in March.

    Based on the first Tech Alpha "Feedback Snapshot", it appears there is no AI traffic implemented yet, as it is among the developer's wish list. Somewhat confusingly, however, it is also mentioned in the Feedback Snapshot wish list that they still hope/plan to add ATC, though in one of the alpha tester screenshots there clearly appears to be an ATC message. Among all of the items in their wish list, AI traffic and ATC are the most important in my eyes, to have in the sim from the day it is released (all of the other wish list items can wait till later as far as I'm concerned).
    Last edited by Bomber_12th; December 22nd, 2019 at 16:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priller View Post
    For people who want to check if their system will run this thing
    Welp, my system failed miserably (if this test is actually accurate).

    Like so many others, will just wait and see what happens once it is released and figure out the plan then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomber_12th View Post
    AI traffic and ATC are the most important in my eyes, to have in the sim from the day it is released (all of the other wish list items can wait till later as far as I'm concerned).
    Right there with you, John

    Did read somewhere that default FSX ATC is already integrated in MSFS but that wouldn't cut the mustard not even by a long shot this time around, would it. It's a good start though, just needs a LOT of work (personally i could never get into any of these third party ATC offerings)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferry_vO View Post
    I am, and I'm looking the proverbial cat out of the tree first Jan!
    Hehe... Great "van Gaaltje" , Ferry! ( for any non flying dutchmen, he wants to see which way the wind blows first ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javis View Post
    Here at SOH, atm:

    2 replies,
    130 views.

    What is wrong with us ?
    Well, we've got the score up to 18 replies, 380 views. Not bad for a day in the week. (another 'van Gaaltje')

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priller View Post
    For people who want to check if their system will run this thing: (not for Wombat, his rig will run three instances of this sim at the same time)

    https://www.game-debate.com/games/in...ht%20Simulator
    Good one, thanks Priller!

    Seems i don't need a new system ( i7-4960X@3.60GHz, GTX1070, 16G, W7, 2560x1600) but to celebrate the event of finally entering flightsimmers' heaven i probabely will buy one anyway. Getting a bit long in the tooth as it is. No better reason i can think of !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javis View Post
    Good one, thanks Priller!

    Seems i don't need a new system ( i7-4960X@3.60GHz, GTX1070, 16G, W7, 2560x1600) but to celebrate the event of finally entering flightsimmers' heaven i probabely will buy one anyway. Getting a bit long in the tooth as it is. No better reason i can think of !
    I take these things with a grain of salt. Remember the min systems requirements of FSX? Now that was a sick joke...

    Priller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priller View Post
    For people who want to check if their system will run this thing: (not for Wombat, his rig will run three instances of this sim at the same time)

    https://www.game-debate.com/games/in...ht%20Simulator
    I tried to get mine tested, but nothing works. The "choose CPU" and "choose GPU" slots just stay on the question. can't get anything on the drop-downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modelr View Post
    I tried to get mine tested, but nothing works. The "choose CPU" and "choose GPU" slots just stay on the question. can't get anything on the drop-downs.

    You just fill out the first four letters/figures of your respective CPU/GPU and the dropdown list will appear!

    Priller

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    Here are the results for your rig:



    More than adequate (and a lot better than mine) But the logic behind the analysis escapes me. I have a GTX1070 and mine is not listed as a bottleneck...

    Priller
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    Last edited by Priller; December 24th, 2019 at 03:30. Reason: added a comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priller View Post
    Here are the results for your rig:



    More than adequate (and a lot better than mine) But the logic behind the analysis escapes me. I have a GTX1070 and mine is not listed as a bottleneck...

    Priller
    Thanks. Yes, seems strange. I'll have to go back and see if I can get it to come up.


    Edit: I found I was looking in wrong place for entering info.

    Bottlenecks info: showing what would be gained by different upgrades, all the way to the top. (Almost $2000USD just for CPU & GPU upgrades on MY rig, while using the same brand/model class of CPU/GPU!) However, the comparison readout, which was very comprehensive, said the cost/performance increase ratio is really not worth the expense, as my rig specs will run MSFS at better than 75% of max, and better than 160% of MSFS high end requirements. Since my eyes can't see what the paint and screenshot artists on SOH and the other Fltsim sites can, and my FPMs running P3Dv4.5 with ORBX, Megascenery V3, and most of the high quality aircraft, both freeware and payware, range from well over 125, down to maybe 15 in extremely dense cities, I think I'll stay where I am, for now.
    Last edited by modelr; December 24th, 2019 at 07:14.
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