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    Yokosuka Naval Yard

    Any of you scenery gurus interested in building Yokosuka Naval Yard south of Tokyo?

    On 18 July 1945 USN and BPF naval aircraft attacked it and damaged and sank some of IJN's remaining ships of war.
    I need it built so I can mount both USN and BPF attacks upon it...

    From Wiki:
    The attack on Yokosuka was an air raid conducted by the United States Navy on 18 July 1945 during the last weeks of the Pacific War. The Japanese battleship Nagato was the raid's main target, though anti-aircraft positions and other warships at Yokosuka Naval Arsenal were also attacked. Other U.S. Navy and Royal Navy aircraft struck airfields in the Tokyo area.
    While Nagato was only lightly damaged, the American aircraft sank a destroyer, a submarine and two escort vessels and damaged five small vessels. The Allied pilots also claimed the destruction of several locomotivesand 43 Japanese aircraft as well as damage to another 77 aircraft. Japanese anti-aircraft guns shot down twelve American and two British aircraft.

    Its next attacks were made against the main body of the IJN in Kure and the Inland Sea on 24, 25 and 28 July.[18] These raids sank three battleships, an aircraft carrier and several other warships but cost the Allies 133 aircraft and 102 aircrew killed.[19] The Third Fleet and elements of the BPF continued strikes against targets in Japan until the end of the war on 15 August 1945.[20]
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    Kure Harbor wouldn't be a bad addition either....... smile.
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    Hi DD,

    I was on the Midway (Jan 85-Feb 87) when it was home ported in Yokosuka. Our air wing, CVW-5, was stationed in Atsugi whenever we were in port. I was attached to VA-115 Eagles, an A-6E squadron, but TAD to ship's company/supply. The air raid shelters next to our pier built into the adjacent bluff had been filled in and bricked. There were still many old warehouses on base back then as well. From your picture, I don't recognize it so much, except the large crane on the pier. Also, on the lower left hand corner, there was a softball diamond and traveling up the road, there was a Baskin-Robins ice cream shop next to the water, but no docks as shown.

    Since I was a very young boy, I wanted to be on an aircraft carrier, and for my sins, they gave me one. And when my tour was over, I'd never want another, LOL!

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    Very interesting pics Devildog. It looks very "busy" with lots of infrastructure. Do you have any recon shots of Yokosuka before the attacks?

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    I was home-ported in Yokosuka from Feb-1974 through Jan-1976 aboard the USS Richard B. Anderson (DD786), Desron 6.

    Got to where I loved the sight of Mt Fuji rising up above the mist whenever we sailed back into Tokyo Bay returning from one underway stretch or another. It meant home.

    We spent way more time away from Yokosuka than at home. Nevertheless a couple of friends and I kept an apartment ashore- in Kenagawa about half-way between Yokosuka and Kamakura (where the big sitting Buddha is). Used to love that first night back in port and going down to the local neighborhood bath-house for a good soaking. Aaaahh!

    BTW, TW, its funny you mention that since a young boy you had always wanted to serve on a carrier.

    I had similar ambitions. When I joined up I wanted to be home-ported in Yokosuka. My mom and Dad spent a lot of time there just after the war. The old man was in charge of sweeping mines from the approaches to major, and minor Japanese ports.

    Growing up our house was spotted here and there with all sorts of nice gifts and bric-a-brac given to him by mayors and officials of various Japanese cities and towns in gratitude for opening up their ports for business again after the war.

    My older sister was born at the Yokosuka Naval Hospital. I thoroughly enjoyed my time spent aboard the Anderson and living in Yokosuka. BTW, did you ever notice that the Japanese pronounce Yokosuka yo-KO-suka with the emphasis on the second syllable? We Americans always seem to pronounce it yo-KU-ska. Heh-heh, whatever.

    Spent many an hour plane guarding for the Midway, TW!

    Here are a few grainy old photos of the Midway: underway at dusk, approaching for unrep, and tied up pier-side taken from the deck of the Anderson as we were pulling in and approaching whatever berth it was that we always tide up to.

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    PS: Sorry DD73 for hi-jacking your thread!






    This photo shows where we used to tie up and where the Midway used to tie up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoon Willy View Post
    Hi DD,

    I was on the Midway (Jan 85-Feb 87) when it was home ported in Yokosuka. Our air wing, CVW-5, was stationed in Atsugi whenever we were in port. I was attached to VA-115 Eagles, an A-6E squadron, but TAD to ship's company/supply. The air raid shelters next to our pier built into the adjacent bluff had been filled in and bricked. There were still many old warehouses on base back then as well. From your picture, I don't recognize it so much, except the large crane on the pier. Also, on the lower left hand corner, there was a softball diamond and traveling up the road, there was a Baskin-Robins ice cream shop next to the water, but no docks as shown.

    Since I was a very young boy, I wanted to be on an aircraft carrier, and for my sins, they gave me one. And when my tour was over, I'd never want another, LOL!

    TW
    Thanks TW!!

    From what I am reading our Allied Naval Aircrews did a "bang up job" on those piers and naval yards in 1945.
    Our USN took over and revamped much of them to bring them up to speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenna View Post
    Very interesting pics Devildog. It looks very "busy" with lots of infrastructure. Do you have any recon shots of Yokosuka before the attacks?
    The first photo is a pre-attack recon photo of Yokosuka.
    The second photo is of Kure.
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    Chris,

    No worries on hijacking the thread......

    I learned while stationed on Okinawa after my tour in Vietnam that the Japanese put the emphasis on one of the middle syllables versus our English pronunciations...

    It appears your photo and mine are VERY similar except from a different angle. Rotate one or the other about 45-90 degrees and they are the same.
    Your top is my left side.

    Since you are one of our premier scenery gurus, any interest in doing up a pre-attack Yokosuka naval yard?
    Both USN and BPF attacked it several times with some interest from the USAAC bombers.

    Lee
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    MaskRider,

    Yes, I pronounced it incorrectly until I heard someone else say it, lol! I had a former co-worker who served on the Midway, perhaps a little before you were on the Anderson. Obviously, he was a member of the Gulf of Tonkin Yacht Club. Yes, it seemed we were away more than home, but spent many wonderful days in Subic Bay, tied up at Cubi Point. Had to take the "Liberty Bus" to main gate, which meant crossing the runway!

    I did manage to take a tour to Mt. Fuji, although I didn't make it to the summit due to rain, it was a great experience. I enjoyed riding the trains and seeing the countryside, beautiful place, Japan.

    Thanks for sharing the photos, by the way, brings back a lot of fond memories!

    The flight deck of the Midway is where I transitioned from a "Wog" to a "Shellback" and have my certificate hanging in the dining room, lol!

    Sorry DevilDog, we're highjacking your thread, my apologies, just being nostalgic!

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    a little before you were on the Anderson. Obviously, he was a member of the Gulf of Tonkin Yacht Club
    Actually, as it turned out, I consider my self a member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club- of sorts anyway.

    In the months leading up to the fall of Saigon and Phnom Penh we spent weeks on end steaming back an forth around Yankee Station plane guarding for various carriers. And of course we were also there and participated in both Operations Frequent Wind and Eagle Pull, the operations evacuating refugees during the Fall of Saigon (Tonkin Gulf) and Phnom Penh (Gulf of Thailand) late April early May '75.

    So I kinda squeaked in there. ;^)

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    TW,
    No problem on the hijacking. We all do it to each other from time to time.

    Nostalgia is a wonderful thing in the basement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog73 View Post
    It appears your photo and mine are VERY similar except from a different angle. Rotate one or the other about 45-90 degrees and they are the same.
    Your top is my left side......any interest in doing up a pre-attack Yokosuka naval yard?

    Both USN and BPF attacked it several times with some interest from the USAAC bombers.

    Lee
    Hiya Lee,

    That is an interesting picture.

    It looks as though everything is covered in a thick layer of mud or something. Is it just the quality of the photo or cloud shadows or something?

    One can make out all the different ships tied up relatively neatly but as I said they appear to be all muddled up and kinda blurry.

    It almost looks like maybe they have been attacked or else they are under camouflage?

    It was always my understanding, not based on any rigorous research, that we had taken kind of a softly-softly approach to the facilities at Yokosuka because we were eyeballing them for our own use.

    I notice in your above photo that the huge crane at Berth 12 (where the Nagato is tied up) is still present which kind of indicates to me that maybe there had not been any massive carpet bombing sort of attack.

    I got curious so I googles on "bombed ships in yokosuka harbor".

    Found a really interesting article called "NAGATO's Last Year: July 1945 - July 1946"

    It tells all about what we are looking at in that photo and also goes into great detail about the reasons for, planning for and actual step by step phases of what turned out to be a relatively narrowly focused attack on Yokosuka.

    First off I am guessing that the image you posted is shortly after the attack- because the water in the harbor appears to be all roiled and disturbed.

    EDITED to say: just notice that you had said it was a pre-attack photo. I'll buy that!

    The article includes several pics including the one below which is a view of the harbor looking SW over berth 12 (where the Nagato was tied up. You can see in the photo, the port crane as well as the pagota of the Nagato stickin up just below the rear of the crane. There is also at least one American aircraft visible in the bottom right.

    Anyhow, Lee, you have peaked my interest, I must say.

    It would be a nice, relatively easy manged project- I think.

    Just thinking out loud here, if I were to take it on, I would most likely do the entire Yokosuka Peninsula.

    Any way, as I said, you have sparked my interest. We'll see.

    Cheers, and thanks for bringing it up!

    MR

    PS: Find attached the photo I was just talking about along with another I found taken while the attack was going on.

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    One thing that I would also like to see is an aerial photo showing the exact location of the Yokosuka airfield. I think it was called NAS Oppama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaskRider View Post
    Actually, as it turned out, I consider my self a member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club- of sorts anyway.

    In the months leading up to the fall of Saigon and Phnom Penh we spent weeks on end steaming back an forth around Yankee Station plane guarding for various carriers. And of course we were also there and participated in both Operations Frequent Wind and Eagle Pull, the operations evacuating refugees during the Fall of Saigon (Tonkin Gulf) and Phnom Penh (Gulf of Thailand) late April early May '75.

    So I kinda squeaked in there. ;^)

    MR
    I was 9 years old in '75, I remember seeing the helos bringing evacuees aboard the carriers on the evening news. So I hope you have a GoT Yacht Club patch or hat, you've earned it!

    I grew up watching the war on the evening news, dad never missed it. My first two years in the world, we lived in base housing on Virginia Beach, dad was stationed at Little Creek with BSU2 (Boat Support Unit 2). I understand he did a few ops in Puerto Rico with SEALs and spotting for ships conducting shore bombardment exercises.

    One time, while still very young, I asked him why he didn't go to Vietnam, to which he responded, "Cause people were getting killed over there." Being the dumb kid that I was (perhaps still am), I told him all he had to do was stay out of the way of the bullets! He just rolled his eyes, lol!

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    According to Pacific Wrecks:

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    Lat 35 20' 0" N Long 139 40' 0" E. Yokosuka Airfield is located on Natsu Island, connected by a causeway to Yokosuka on the mainland. The airfield is located next to the Yokosuka Naval Facility south of Yokohama on Tokyo Bay. It also includes Yokosuka Seaplane Base. Also known as Yokosuka Field, Yokosuka Airfield, Yokosuka Navy Base or Oppama.


    Pacific Wrecks - Yokosuka Airfield & Seaplane Base (NAS Oppama), Kanagawa Prefecture, Japan
    Source: https://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfie...uka/index.html


    Here's film of the Marines occupying the airbase. Losts of goo views of what the base was laid out like and the buildings.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STaW...4qynpcj35cpo0k
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    Talon did a GSL rendition of Kure , it might be of use as a starting point

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=208&id=20050

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    Hiya Capt. K!

    Yeah, I saw that write up at PWs. I haven't tried plugging in the coord yet but I did some serious diggin' since I posted above. I think I have the place located.

    I tried my best to locate Natsu Island. But googling on it returned zip. Same with Google Earth.

    The searches that yielded the most productive results were "Yokosuka Navy Air Corps Oppama Base" and "Yokosuka Naval air technical Arsenal".

    I also found the location of the airbase used by the Japanese to fly Kamikaze attacks. Turns out the the airfield, Nagai Airfeild, was later turned into single family naval housing for the US Navy at Yokosuka. Nagai Heights Naval Housing. The main drag through Nagai Heights was once the main runway. Its about 7 miles SW of the Berth 12, where the Midway used to tie up.

    Going to watch the video right now....

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    Another great video. For sure at least some of it was shot in and around "Yokosuka Navy Air Corps Oppama Base"

    I am pretty sure I have it located.

    I found this image titled "Yokosuka-Naval-air-technical-Arsenal"

    Note the ne-sw running what appears to be asphalted runway. Also notice the s-shaped bend in the river (or whatever it is) and the angled "canals' along the west side as well as the inlet and angle that runs along the south end. These are the fit points for todays location..

    Next, consider this image, a modern day version of the same location. Note the same topographic features pointed out in the first image.


    Now consider the following combined image. With a little rotating and resizing the 1944 image perfectly matches up with the modern image. Notice that a certain amount of land-filling has taken place on the eastern side


    I think that PWs describing the location as an island connected to the mainland via a causeway is just in error. With all due respect to the guys at PW, it wouldn't be the first time and they would be the first to admit it. It may very well be that some how or other this place is separated from the mainland by some sort of canal that may somehow connect up the inlets at the north and south ends.

    BTW this location is just a short 2 1/4 miles NNW of Berth 12 at the Yokosuka Naval Yard and the lat/lons given at PWs hit at about the NE corner of the landfill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog73 View Post
    Kure Harbor wouldn't be a bad addition either....... smile.
    Yep. Both places, Kure and Yokosuka were part of that same July 18, 1945 story.

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    Finally found a modern day map identifying the above location as Natsu Shima (Natsu Island) Aaahhh!

    Although why its is called an Island is still a bit of a mystery.

    I am wondering if that first image i used as an overlay may have been way later than 1945 and perhaps at the time of WWII the location was indeed an island.

    MR

    Edited to add: no it wasn't!

    After doing a little more googling using Natsu Shima in the name I found 2 more obvious intel images of the NAS Oppama/Natsu Island. Both dated 1945

    When I overlaid them over the top of everything else I was finally able to clearly pinpoint the runways and the Sea Plane ramp where the Marine came ashore in the video posted by Capt-K.

    Gonna take a break.

    Its doing all the research for a project that really makes it fun.

    I also went up to the Yokosuka peninsula in CFS2 a bit earlier and took a look around. It will make a very nice scenery project location indeed.

    Hadn't been up to that pneck of the woods since way before Rhumba released his mesh and masks.

    Cheers everybody,
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    Don't know what the red outline is all about.
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    Here's a couple more pics of the airfield.

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Yokosuka.jpg   Yokosuka 2.jpg   Yokosuka_Navy_Air_Corps_Oppama_Base_1945.jpg  
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    Captain K,

    That would put the current CFS2 Yokosuka NAS and seaplane base in just about the right spot.

    [runway.157]
    id=8157
    name=JP Yokosuka_IJN
    heading=45
    allegiance=0
    units_across=2
    base_lat=N35 18.83
    base_lon=E139 38.03
    base_alt=3
    takeoff_start_pos=-000,0
    takeoff_stop_pos=1700,200
    landing_start_pos=5000,350
    landing_touchdown_pos=550,0
    landing_stop_pos=-250,0

    [runway.183]
    id=8183
    name=JP Yokosuka_IJN Sea
    base_lat=N35 18.98
    base_lon=E139 39.15
    base_alt=0
    heading=85
    allegiance=0
    units_across=2
    takeoff_start_pos=-000,0
    takeoff_stop_pos=2000,200
    landing_start_pos=5000,350
    landing_touchdown_pos=350,0
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTgt View Post
    Talon did a GSL rendition of Kure , it might be of use as a starting point

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=208&id=20050
    U.T.,

    Yes, I have that one installed already. Looking at modifying it a bit to look more like the photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Kurt View Post
    Here's a couple more pics of the airfield.
    Nice pics Capt-K!

    Thanks for taking the time.

    Using the top down views and GoogleEarth I can pinpoint from where two of them were taken. However, wrt the one with the caption, I can't pinpoint a location on the top down views or in GoogleEarth that would yield such a perspective.

    BTW whats your impression of those three islet-appearing things in the distance? Islets or LSDs? I am inclined to LSDs myself.

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    They look like LST's to me.
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