No X-Plane Library at SOH?

**FlyingsCool** · May 7th, 2019, 10:27

I tried to upload the paint here, but there was no choice for a library for X-Plane uploads. I did upload it over at X-Plane.org.

***Rami*** · May 7th, 2019, 11:47

FlyingsCool,

Is there a need for one?

**FlyingsCool** · May 7th, 2019, 13:46

I think so. We've got an X-Plane forum here. I tried to upload a skin last night (Rosie the Rocketer for A-Pilot's J3 Cub). Seems to be a growing user base. Granted, I can go to X-Plane.org (which has a horrible way of storing files, it's so hard to search their database because it's forum based, so there's messages all mixed in that overwhelm the downloadable objects), and there's Avsim and Flightsim.com and Simviation, sure. But I like hanging out here. The crowd here suits me

**FlyingsCool** · May 7th, 2019, 13:47

If y'all don't think so, I'm cool with that; I was just surprised given the activity in the X-Plane Forum.

***Rami*** · May 7th, 2019, 15:25

Good evening,

So, how does this need to be set up? What sections will you require?

(Aircraft, Scenery, Gauges, repaints, etc.)

Please sketch out the requirements in this thread and I will make them happen by Saturday,

**FlyingsCool** · May 7th, 2019, 16:44

Originally Posted by Rami

Good evening,

So, how does this need to be set up? What sections will you require?

(Aircraft, Scenery, Gauges, repaints, etc.)

Please sketch out the requirements in this thread and I will make them happen by Saturday,

Hi Rami,

Well, thank you. I'll put it out to the community two add their ideas, but, personally, for me, mostly what I would post would be, in the language of X-Plane liveries or repaints. But, I imagine, given the skills I've seen in this group, that people would also upload scenery and aircraft and aircraft components (Like weapons and other objects) to start with, traffic and possibly LUA scripts. I'll probably be creating scenery myself, as well, using tools like WED and some other tool seems to be common, kind of like ADE is for MSFS.

I hope you're doing well!

**warchild** · May 7th, 2019, 21:04

Hi Rami.
There are only three major sections we need: Aircraft, Liveries, and scenery. You can create sub sections as needed, but those hree are the most important. Liveries will be the busiest as they are with every sim. Aircraft will be thw next busiest, aand scenery will bring up the rear. Gauges are ( in general ) not a thing.

**b52bob** · May 8th, 2019, 05:35

I was thinking about asking for an X-Plane library myself.

it would be a great idea to have a library here. The .org search engine, as pointed out, is not easy to use as all those messages are intertwined. I’ve been a member of SOH for years and this is the best FS sim site on the internet and since XP-11 has kinda like exploded, we need to keep up with the times. I am sure the screenshot section has attracted at least a few people to XP.

I agree with aircraft, scenery and repaint categories but may I suggest a category for the numerous libraries that are needed for sceneries.

**Bjoern** · May 8th, 2019, 09:14

To be honest, I don't see much need for an extensive library here unless people actively upload new add-ons to it.

The good thing about X-Plane is that most content is posted on X-Plane.org, even if only as links to external resources (e.g. Google Drive), which facilitates version control for the author.

**warchild** · May 8th, 2019, 10:58

Who said it needs to be extensive??? But the bottom line is that, people are getting sick of the org. Devs are moving off on their own, users are refusing to purchasse the products sold there, and over all, they have driven themselves into a disheveled ne'r be missed state. Really, go ask about textures on any plane in the general forum. You will receive a WARNING. A Bloody warning, for posting in the wrong forum. The org is difficult to use. It's hostile towards the very people it pretends to serve, and hostile against the very developers that have made it what it was.

We dont need a large repository, but we need a repository. We're frikkin SOH for gods sake. We're one of the ONLY sites on the web that ever gave a darn about the people that come here and their involvement in the simming hobby. We've been a nexus for developers and users alike to meet, discuss, share and enjoy what we do and a major part of that has been user creations like "liveries" including work done by yourself i believe. Remember Jay Kay: Bill Ortis: Francois Dumas: A2A: Crazy Colin?? They arent here any more. The world has changed, and we have to change with it, or die. A repository is one way to do that. It gives users and developers alike, a means to extend their personal influence on the hobby and enjow creating and sharing their work with the world, in a way that doesn't demand they negotiate a deal with a bunch of *******s that dont give a damn.

Yeah, ok, thsere's only maybe twenty of us that are vociferous and involved with the day to day here in X-Plane. Hell, At one point, Soh had fewer than that in total. X-Plane is growing in popularity right along side P3D, and the two are defining the future of flight simming. To ignore user creations and content in one, is akin to cutting off our own leg and walking off a cliff, blindfolded. We must change, and we must grow, and we must adopt to the new geography of the simming community to meet the specific needs of those who now populate it.

Make it small, Make it humble, but by all means, make it fun. SOH didnt become king of the hill by being king of the hill. It became that through having and open door, beer in the box, and a welcoming sharing tone between all its denizens. To turn our backs on that basic foundation right now by excluding X-Plane from its fair place with the other sim's ( we currently sit below train sim ) is a betrayal of that very foundation.

I would submit an example of one of those developers who no longer use the org or its store. Rotate ( https://rotatesim.com/ )! You wont find very much at all on their new MD-11 on the org, but check out their web site. Same goes for JarDesigns ( http://jardesign.org/ ). You wont find anything on their A340-500 on the org, but again, check their site. These guys have left the org, but not the sim, and we as an organization are in a position to offer them and their followers/customers an opportunity for growing their business as well as growing an ever increasingly enthusiastic community. FSX will some day, go away, leaving P3D and X-Plane as the inheritors of the torch. We need to keep doing what we do best and not be exclusive to anyone. That's how Ickie would want it, and thats how I believe it should continue.

***Rami*** · May 8th, 2019, 13:16

Warchild,

Thanks for the Shakespearean soliloquy.

I will get on it in the next couple of days based on the suggestions in this thread.

***Rami*** · May 8th, 2019, 13:29

Hey guys,

Done. If you think of any more categories you need, either send me a PM or continue posting to this thread.

**Portia911** · May 8th, 2019, 14:05

Thank you to FlyingsCool, Rami and Pam for spruiking, supporting and implementing this so quickly. Hope that an XP library here at SoH will energise forum activity a bit more.

***Penzoil3*** · May 8th, 2019, 14:40

Pam, so glad to see you getting back to normal. The Shakespearean soliloquy was great. I fly X plane too, so thanks.
Sue

**bpfowler** · May 8th, 2019, 15:14

SOH has always been a home for refuse-ay creatives. I believe that's how it got the handle in the first place.
A library would seem to support that.

Now if we could figure out how to get Jan to develop the Convair for XP11....aw shucks.

**warchild** · May 8th, 2019, 15:58

Originally Posted by Rami

Warchild,

Thanks for the Shakespearean soliloquy.

I will get on it in the next couple of days based on the suggestions in this thread.

:ROFLMAO: Rami! You have GOT to be the most awesome person I have unfortunately never had the honor to meet. You rock dude. Thank you

**warchild** · May 8th, 2019, 16:34

Originally Posted by Penzoil3

Pam, so glad to see you getting back to normal. The Shakespearean soliloquy was great. I fly X plane too, so thanks.
Sue

Workin on it

..

heh my favorite show..

**warchild** · May 8th, 2019, 16:57

Originally Posted by bpfowler

SOH has always been a home for refuse-ay creatives. I believe that's how it got the handle in the first place.
A library would seem to support that.

Now if we could figure out how to get Jan to develop the Convair for XP11....aw shucks.

:LOL:: Ya know, thats a very good possibility. I've always been an extreme and incurable romantic with a penchant for grandstanding but I'd like to think that I also see the realities and possibilities and not just the flowers along the way. Of course, flowers are pretty darn nice too

**FlyingsCool** · May 8th, 2019, 18:55

Originally Posted by warchild

Who said it needs to be extensive??? But the bottom line is that, people are getting sick of the org. Devs are moving off on their own, users are refusing to purchasse the products sold there, and over all, they have driven themselves into a disheveled ne'r be missed state. Really, go ask about textures on any plane in the general forum. You will receive a WARNING. A Bloody warning, for posting in the wrong forum. The org is difficult to use. It's hostile towards the very people it pretends to serve, and hostile against the very developers that have made it what it was.

We dont need a large repository, but we need a repository. We're frikkin SOH for gods sake. We're one of the ONLY sites on the web that ever gave a darn about the people that come here and their involvement in the simming hobby. We've been a nexus for developers and users alike to meet, discuss, share and enjoy what we do and a major part of that has been user creations like "liveries" including work done by yourself i believe. Remember Jay Kay: Bill Ortis: Francois Dumas: A2A: Crazy Colin?? They arent here any more. The world has changed, and we have to change with it, or die. A repository is one way to do that. It gives users and developers alike, a means to extend their personal influence on the hobby and enjow creating and sharing their work with the world, in a way that doesn't demand they negotiate a deal with a bunch of *******s that dont give a damn.

Yeah, ok, thsere's only maybe twenty of us that are vociferous and involved with the day to day here in X-Plane. Hell, At one point, Soh had fewer than that in total. X-Plane is growing in popularity right along side P3D, and the two are defining the future of flight simming. To ignore user creations and content in one, is akin to cutting off our own leg and walking off a cliff, blindfolded. We must change, and we must grow, and we must adopt to the new geography of the simming community to meet the specific needs of those who now populate it.

Make it small, Make it humble, but by all means, make it fun. SOH didnt become king of the hill by being king of the hill. It became that through having and open door, beer in the box, and a welcoming sharing tone between all its denizens. To turn our backs on that basic foundation right now by excluding X-Plane from its fair place with the other sim's ( we currently sit below train sim ) is a betrayal of that very foundation.

I would submit an example of one of those developers who no longer use the org or its store. Rotate ( https://rotatesim.com/ )! You wont find very much at all on their new MD-11 on the org, but check out their web site. Same goes for JarDesigns ( http://jardesign.org/ ). You wont find anything on their A340-500 on the org, but again, check their site. These guys have left the org, but not the sim, and we as an organization are in a position to offer them and their followers/customers an opportunity for growing their business as well as growing an ever increasingly enthusiastic community. FSX will some day, go away, leaving P3D and X-Plane as the inheritors of the torch. We need to keep doing what we do best and not be exclusive to anyone. That's how Ickie would want it, and thats how I believe it should continue.

Hear, Hear!

(although, I would note that there are still users of FS98 and FS2002 out there

and people still developing for them)(But I agree that P3D and X-Plane are the now and future)(And, yes, this was the first place I came to share my repaint

)

**FlyingsCool** · May 8th, 2019, 18:58

How do you mark a thread as "Solved"

***Rami*** · May 8th, 2019, 19:06

Originally Posted by FlyingsCool

How do you mark a thread as "Solved"

Stop responding to it.

**warchild** · May 8th, 2019, 19:11

Originally Posted by Rami

Stop responding to it.

**warchild** · May 8th, 2019, 19:16

Originally Posted by FlyingsCool

Hear, Hear!

(although, I would note that there are still users of FS98 and FS2002 out there

and people still developing for them)(But I agree that P3D and X-Plane are the now and future)(And, yes, this was the first place I came to share my repaint

)

I've got a few to upload myself as soon as i get some rest and deal with this dry eye. Nothing elaborate mind you, but hopefully, tasteful..

**b52bob** · May 9th, 2019, 06:14

Thank you for the library.

just as an example, flightsim.com has really stepped up their x-plane coverage and more and more files are being uploaded to the x-plane library.

We we need to broadcast the SOH is much more than a Microsoft sim web site and start attracting developers here.

**warchild** · May 9th, 2019, 08:55

Originally Posted by b52bob

Thank you for the library.
.

We we need to broadcast the SOH is much more than a Microsoft sim web site and start attracting developers here.

I'm not certain How much of that statement is true at this moment. If I were coming here for the first time, it would be quite easy for me to assume that this is an MSFS centric site, and in truth, it's actually always been a CFS centered site ( chuckles ). It could be said, that before PVP was popular, we supported PVP.
The gist of it is that we started as one thing, and as other things became popular, we added them. Weve always reacted to user needs and wishees. We've never purposely nor aggressively pursued a specific direction. However, we can now observe these other organizations ( flightsim, simviation, etc ) and surprisingly they are in the same boat even though they're coming from a purpose driven aggressive position. In other words, they dont ave any better of an idea how to adjust to the changing landscape than we do. What they do have, is a very colorful and informative front end, while having perhaps not the most comfortable back end ( forums ) . We have, One HELL of a back end. I cant think of a group of people I'd rather be with more than you folks here, but we're a forum, and not an advertisement for all these other places. Our strength lies in the dissemination of information via word of mouth. It's very easy to respond to an announcement somewhere with a ":Thanks. I'll let my friends at SOH know" , and wait for them to get curious, but the burden of waiting, is on us. We have to nurture the future carefully.