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    SOH-CM-2024 Cees Donker's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by air1 View Post
    I want to purchase both the Buchon and the BF109G, taking advantage of the offer made, however I have a BF109G from Flight replicas, purchased a while ago now. How much different is this BF109G model, enough to make a new purchase?

    Thanks in advance
    Air1
    That will be the FS9 model? The new one is a complete new plane with smoother animations and more details. I also have the older model Gustav, but after flying the Kurfurst knowing what the new models would be like, I bought them both instantly. But hey, don't listen to me: I'm a terrible 109 fanatic!



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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieC View Post
    I did send an email yesterday but maybe you didn't get it....will send again

    Thanks
    Hi Jamie. I keep checking, but nothing there yet. Can you PM me your order number, here at SOH? Then I can look you up in the database.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_cyul View Post
    Hi Jamie. I keep checking, but nothing there yet. Can you PM me your order number, here at SOH? Then I can look you up in the database.Mike
    PM Sent Mike

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    Having the Avia S-199 in the hangar really rounds out the collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieC View Post
    PM Sent Mike
    Found your order. Please check your email inbox!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_cyul View Post
    Found your order. Please check your email inbox!Mike
    Great stuff! Thanks Mike

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    Great release, been watching and waiting
    Both are Fantastic aircraft

    Thank you Mike
    aka Flight Replicas

    and as Cees Donker stated "Flying the 109K paid off"
    oh andThank you Bomber_12 for your screen shot... and your written information... so interesting and very helpful

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    Got both today and retired the FR Bf-109G from FS2004 to the back of the hangar. (May pull a few back out. Looks like there were a couple variants the new release doesn't have. It is a bit harder to fly than the old Gustav. The Buchon is seems even harder! I'd put it fair bit above Warbird Sim's P-51D and not far under Alabeo's Gee Bee Z in terms of difficulty getting on and off the strip. (It really does want to swap ends toward the end of the rollout just like I've read the real ones did!) Oh, the Buchon sounds GREAT BTW! Thanks FR!

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    Not had chance to fly it yet...but if it's worse to take off than the Warbirdsim P51 then that could be interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSI01 View Post
    Having the Avia S-199 in the hangar really rounds out the collection.
    And that would be a real challenge as FSX native P3DV4.5 too- the He 111 prop with an small 109 tail.I admire the Israel AF Pilots***

    ( from 4.2 upwards, particulary 4.4 seems to have an FDE change - at least CG moved again )

    Roland

    *** a late friend of mine flew them a part from Czech to Israel long ago- he said that was most challenging ever plane- and he had a huge record of planes -->from Bf-109 Legion Condor , Bombers- All FW-190 - a TA and even a He-219

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    Thanks for the advice Cees, I like an aircraft to be realistic but not overly complicated, sounds like the BF109G could be the very one.


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    Thanks Mike, off to download and get started.
    Regards, Tom Stovall KRDD


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    Here are a series of screenshots taken of one of my favorites covered by Mike, "The Desert Buchon", otherwise known as its Spanish AF serial number, C.4K-31, in the scheme it wore between 2011 and 2017, when operated in the UK as G-AWHE, owned at the time by Richard Lake.

    Following its original Spanish AF service, C.4K-31 was one of four Buchons purchased from Spain by the Confederate Air Force in 1966, and was registered as N109ME. It was flown by the CAF until 1968 when it was leased to Spitfire Productions Ltd. for use in the movie "Battle of Britian", in which it was painted as "Red 8" (part of the agreement was that CAF pilots would fly the CAF aircraft in the film). During the movie filming, it was registered as G-AWHE, but the UK registration was then canceled after the end of filming and the aircraft was returned to the US, based at the CAF's headquarters - initially at Harlingen, and then Midland, Texas. The aircraft was briefly painted in Spanish Civil War Bf-109B markings for use in the 1975 movie "The Hindenburg", and then in the 1980's was painted into a North African desert scheme of "Yellow 14", to represent the personal mount of famed Luftwaffe ace Hans-Joachim Marseille. The aircraft had some restoration/rebuild work done to it through the 90's and didn't fly again until 2004. It was not operated by the CAF very much, being a difficult type for the organization to operate on a regular basis (especially from paved surfaces, which are not recommended for Buchons/109's), and in 2007 it was put up for sale. Richard Lake acquired the aircraft and had it sent to the Aircraft Restoration Company at Duxford in 2008. For three years the aircraft underwent extensive restoration, including replacing all of the modern and foreign-to-type components that had been installed over the years with only correct/original parts. Its first post-restoration flight took place in May 2011, with John Romain at the controls - the aircraft registered again as G-AWHE, the original registration it had during the filming of "Battle of Britain".

    The markings applied to the aircraft between 2011 and 2017, and as reproduced by Mike with this depiction of G-AWHE, is that of the Bf-109F-4/trop of the "Pik-As" ("Ace of Spades") squadron JG 53, flown by Major Eric Gerlitz, based at Quotaifiya, Egypt in July 1942. From 2011 to 2017, the aircraft was operated between Duxford and its home airfield of Humberside, and was displayed at a number of airshows. Note, in the attention to detail matching the real aircraft (among many other things), the GPS antenna on top of the fuselage, just behind the cockpit, and the modified/early-generation windscreen with extra glazing, which goes back to its days with the CAF (and matching well with the Bf-109F-4 paint scheme).

    (In 2017, Richard Lake sold the aircraft to the Air Fighter Academy/Hangar10 museum, based at Heringsdorf, Germany. Over the next year, the aircraft was rebuilt and converted by Rare Bird Aviation in Hungary into a Bf-109G-14, complete with DB 605 engine, G-14 generation cowlings and tail, and Erla canopy. Despite its original Hispano Buchon heritage (details of which can still be seen in the wings and fuselage, when you know what to look for), the aircraft is now registered in Germany as a true Bf-109G-14, with WkNr.462707, registration D-FMGV.)










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    Thanks for the interesting story and beautiful images John. I just learned the D-FMGV is currently for sale and advertised as an original G-14 from 1944..................

    https://www.boschungglobal.com/Inven...09-G-14/D-FMGV

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    Huub, great looking aircraft. If I were a bit younger and wealthier I would be tempted. Thanks to Mike and Flight Replicas for bringing flight simulation back to life for me. Now the Aeroplane Heaven HE-111 has an escort fighter.
    Regards, Tom Stovall KRDD


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    Underwing Rocket Launchers

    Is there a way to remove the underwing rocket launchers on the Buchons?
    Bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUDSCH View Post
    Is there a way to remove the underwing rocket launchers on the Buchons?
    Bud
    I am enjoying the Buchon immensely. The G is very reminiscent of the K to me. Along with the question concerning removing the rocket launchers on the military versions........is there a way to remove the GPS 295 from the panel on the civil versions of the buchon? Just asking??

    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by binarkansas View Post
    I am enjoying the Buchon immensely. The G is very reminiscent of the K to me. Along with the question concerning removing the rocket launchers on the military versions........is there a way to remove the GPS 295 from the panel on the civil versions of the buchon? Just asking??

    Barry
    No, to both GPS and rocket launchers.

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    Unfortunately, there is no Bf 109G-6 (basic) with tropical filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_cyul View Post
    No, to both GPS and rocket launchers.
    Thanks Mike, fully expected and understandable. There just seems something more on any model that would make it just perfect..................well, maybe close to perfect! You know what I mean.

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    Did these real dangerous monsters have no rudder trim at all ??...

    The brief checklist that John posted speaks of "Elevator trim to +1 nose-down prior to take-off", where the manual checklist says "Check stab.trim is set to +1"... Most probabely what is ment here is 'horizontal stabilizer' but of course there's also something like 'vertical stabilizer' (subsequently 'rudder'...)

    I can't remember having flown a propfighter (ahem....) with which you don't set rudder trim to counter engine torque. With such a small and light airframe as the 109/Buchon and such a relatively huge and powerful engine up front one would think that rudder trim would be even more important than elevator trim, certainly at take-off. AFAIK there's no mention of rudder trim in any of the manuals. I was wondering about this because i have been virtually killed on all my take-off's so far....

    Mike, beautifully modeled and textured, sir, inside as well as outside. Kudos !

    Do you maybe have any more specific comments about taking-off in these bad boys ? Keep 'em on the straight and narrow as it were.. ? Thanks !

    cheers,
    jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javis View Post
    Did these real dangerous monsters have no rudder trim at all ??...
    Euhh Jan, to my knowledge the answer on this question should be no. Which is not completely true as some rudders had a trim-tab which could be put in the desired position by hand before flight.

    And for the take off: be careful with the throttle. First make sure you have enough speed, to get the rudder effective, before you really open the throttle.

    Good luck (you will need it ),

    Huub

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