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    Notre Dame

    Another kind of skyship is burning tonight


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    I am sadly watching the news, wishing all the luck to the brave firefighters of Paris.

    Notre Dame is more than a cathedral for the French people an people of Europe .

    I am shure, one day she will rise again in all her beauty .

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    yes, its a very, very sad news from Today.

    I was here two times .
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    A truly sad loss for the world, Notre Dame is as much of an icon for France as the State of Liberty is for the United States. Ironic, because they're actually both French.
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    Even if they rebuild, mankind has lost an 800+ year-old piece of history. This is a tragedy for France, a terrible loss for the whole World.

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    Tragic...great loss for universal culture

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    Fundraising for the reconstruction is already well under way. Two billionaires already pledged 300.000.000 and the city of Paris 10.000.000.

    Now we can only hope that the structure itself isn't damaged too badly.

    A sad day for humanity indeed.

    Priller

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    Funding stands at 460.000.000,- for the moment.

    priller

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    Did somebody already patch the Paris landmark scenery accordingly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjoern View Post
    Did somebody already patch the Paris landmark scenery accordingly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjoern View Post
    Did somebody already patch the Paris landmark scenery accordingly?


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    Indeed! is it a bad joke? Indeed! you can always make a hole in the roof if it pleases you! Walls still there...

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    Yes they seem to have had a certain amount of luck on their side, thankfully. Walls intact so can hopefully restore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjoern View Post
    Did somebody already patch the Paris landmark scenery accordingly?


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    No comment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjoern View Post
    Did somebody already patch the Paris landmark scenery accordingly?


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    No comment...

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    Stones crack and weaken when exposed to fire like that. Last I heard they were still spraying water on the outside of the building to cool it down. When it's possible for them to begin a detailed examination of the entire remaining structure - which could take many months, or even years - we will know.

    I don't know how much experience anyone has in predicting what can be done to restore an 800+ year old building.

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    Notre-Dame will certainly be restored as soon as possible (5 to 10 years) but first, national heritage management services must clean and secure the cathedral and choose how to do it (identical or not). The good news is that in any case the funds already seem planned. France has a great experience in the restoration of secular buildings, it will not be the original lost forever but it will be perfect.
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    Mr. Macron expects to do it within 5 years. I doubt that...

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    Last time they needed 23 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heukie View Post
    Mr. Macron expects to do it within 5 years. I doubt that...
    I wonder (suspiciously) if it will kill off the Yellow Vest protests that Paris has been suffering these past 6 months.. Hush my mouth
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    Quote Originally Posted by huub vink View Post
    Last time they needed 23 years.
    Everything will depend on the techniques used. The destroyed arrow was rebuilt by Viollet Le Duc in the 19th century. After the 1st World War the cathedral of Reims was rebuilt quickly.
    If the framework is rebuilt in oak like the original, the drying of the wood will take time. A colossal amount is necessary and current stocks are insufficient.

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    Reports are the huge trees that provided the original roof trusses in the size needed are no longer available as those forests don't exist anymore. It will be interesting to see how the experts tackle that problem and what they offer as an eventual solution. In the meantime they need to figure out a way to temporarily cover the structure in order to protect what's left of the interior from the elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal998 View Post
    Reports are the huge trees that provided the original roof trusses in the size needed are no longer available as those forests don't exist anymore. It will be interesting to see how the experts tackle that problem and what they offer as an eventual solution. In the meantime they need to figure out a way to temporarily cover the structure in order to protect what's left of the interior from the elements.
    No, these reports are wrong. Huge trees forests (more of 100 years old oak) exist today but the problem is the stock of dry wood (sawn trees) of the size required. France export oak wood of big size and today there is not enough stock. If the oak reconstruction is choosen it will take longer then 5 years!
    Notre-Dame was damaged several times, especially during the first revolution , but always rebuilt (the arrow 100 years later)! Notre-Dame is not the biggest cathedral of France (perhaps Rouen) but it's the one of Paris,a French symbol, and the most famous thank's to Victor Hugo.

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    Well, France gave us the Statue of Liberty - I'm wondering if it's time to return the favor and contribute some American oak to the rebuilding.

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    Gaston, thank you for the correction.

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