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    2020 Race????

    Alright race fans, time to get serious here. 2020, do you want a race ? I know SOH is struggling with members so we need ideas. With Mike and Rob stepping down, I’m it for an executive committee. I know I run the site and make the Duenna but it’s not my race, it’s your race.

    Evaluate the current setup, current rule structure and perhaps the race needs a shakeup to continue. We need ideas, if you want to continue let’s hear them. I’d like to see a true RTW next year if possible.

    So 2020, yay or nay?

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    When I get my rig back up to full health I'll be looking into the weather problem. I like the idea of duenna injection but admit I'm not a coder so I don't know the issues involved with it. I played with FSMetar a bit and like how it can inject from a text file downloaded from NOAA. I dunno how FS downloads it, but there is an address line in the FS config file I believe points to the weather server. Maybe it's just a simple address change to a different server ? I'll throw in vatsims address and see if it works. I routinely have FSrealXW saving the weather file so fsmetar can read it, but from what I've read FSRWX doesn't exactly use a generic weather file from the internet, tho can't explain how it pulls weather from NOAA if it's not a generic text file.

    As for the race next year- I'm all for it tho I make no excuses for my loathing of the current format.
    "May fortune favor the foolish"
    MaddogK

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    I'd love the RTW race to continue, or something like it. However, with a smaller team size, it's harder work and a bit less fun. I miss flying with a big team with everyone online. This year SOH was a small team, and we didn't fly online, meaning you couldn't actually see anyone else in the sim, and baton changes were that bit more difficult. When I saw that you had 8-10 aircraft flying the last leg, and then the pictures afterwards of them all together waiting to depart from K17, it brought it home to me how the experience of this year's race was probably quite different for the AVSIM team compared to the SOH team.

    Let's have a good think about what would work well next year.

    Thanks for asking the question, Eamonn!
    Martin (FS RTW Race pilot 2009-19)
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    Having a smaller team is challenging for sure. Not like the old days when you might have to wait several hours or even most of a day to take the baton.

    Rundown:

    2016 RTWR, SOH had 7 pilots
    2017 RTWR, 8 pilots
    2018 RTWR, 9 pilots
    2019 RTWR, back to 7 pilots

    As you can see we are right on the borderline of managing a race for 48 hours and have only one pilot who is across the pond for that time zone.

    Sadly, the idea of a new rookie and employing rookie mulligans is not going to happen any time soon. (The event is very daunting and difficult to understand on the outside looking in). Having Frank and Pat come aboard from Flightsim has helped a lot in the last two races.

    If any kind of race is to happen next year, I would suggest an even shorter event. Like the 24 hours of Le Mans, maybe restructure the race to last 24 hours max so there is less burnout and a smaller team can work through it easier. Not a true RTWR in distance but could still be exciting.

    I would also like to promote the idea of running the race sometime other than mid February. Can't speak for anyone else but having it as we do now always poses time availability challenges with work and family demands. How about running it during one of the summer months when things are less hectic? (Again, my 2 cents).

    Lots to think about and consider really.

    Kevin

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    So Eamonn suggests a true RTW race (all the way round?), and Kevin suggests a 24-hour limit. Sounds like we just need to re-introduce Concorde legs!

    (This is one of my favourite add-ons: https://www.flightsimlabs.com/index.php/concorde-x/)
    Martin (FS RTW Race pilot 2009-19)
    Win7 x64 | MSI X79A-GD65 | Intel Core i7-3820 Quad-Core 3.60 GHz | 16GB DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookster67 View Post
    So Eamonn suggests a true RTW race (all the way round?), and Kevin suggests a 24-hour limit. Sounds like we just need to re-introduce Concorde legs!

    (This is one of my favourite add-ons: https://www.flightsimlabs.com/index.php/concorde-x/)
    We could do stages like the current NASCAR races- forced pit stops every so many laps. To apply it to the RTW each team could could have exactly 24 hours (or 48) to post their duenna's, then the race stops till the following weekend where the window opens and the race resumes.
    "May fortune favor the foolish"
    MaddogK

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    Something along the lines of the Races held here at SOH a few years ago...such as this one...
    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...est-Pacific-II
    ...but on a world-wide stage.
    Perhaps not the all out 48 to 72 hour marathons (which are difficult for many, if not most), but as in the Southwest Pacific race IIRC there was a spreadsheet to keep track of everyone's time, but the times were taken directly from the Duenna. I fully realize the weather component may throw a wrench into the equation, but with enough forethought there may be a way to make it work. I know for me personally I would be more likely to participate in such a race that takes place within a time frame of a week or two, but I also understand the desire of the pilots who have the time and/or energy to make it a marathon session of 48 or 72 hours.
    Expect banging, belching and an occasional manly fart as you roar down the runway at full power. (I have found that the engine can make similar noises)

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