MaskRider Gilbert Islands

[kdriver]

Bearcat,

I hope you only eliminated the pac????p.BGLs - the pac????m.BGLs can stay. You need to reactivate the pac????p.BGLs when reverting to stock scenery. That's why I moved them to my Rhumba coastal flattens layer. I activate that layer along with the Rhumba's water files layer when I'm operating in the older scenery areas. I keep Rhumba's mesh active at all times.

Basically, when the water masks are activated, the coastal flattens and water files are deactivated and vice versa. I have all the water files for different parts of the world in the one folder. This means I'm only dealing with three layers in the scenery library. I get perfect renditions of all the PTO areas as long as I remember to activate/deactivate those three layers in accordance with the particular area. It's a bit of a nuisance, but you get used to it.

Kevin

[bearcat241]

Bearcat,

I hope you only eliminated the pac????p.BGLs - the pac????m.BGLs can stay.

I experimented with eliminating both sets in turn. Of course, in either case the rest of the PTO (older stuff) was crap.

You need to reactivate the pac????p.BGLs when reverting to stock scenery.... I get perfect renditions of all the PTO areas as long as I remember to activate/deactivate those three layers in accordance with the particular area. It's a bit of a nuisance, but you get used to it.

Ok...that sounds like the "reconciliation" answer i was fishing for. Although it does sound like a nuisance, it gives me some alternative. I suppose it doesn't get any better than that.

Thanks my friend...

[stuart277]

You neglected to either (a) deactivate your other Mask Rider Micronesia scenery folders or else (b) delete the specific scenery files listed here and in the readme.

Also you need to change the runway entries in you airbases.dat file to the new ones included in the scenery pack.

Tsk! Tsk! ;^)

MR

PS You might consider installing the Pacific Blues water texture pack at some point.

Hi MR
I changed the airbases to the new ones included in the scenery pack.
Deactivating MR Micronesia worked well
Initially I tried the delete the scenery BGL file but had a problem where the game was looking for them and would not load.
I tried it again today and did not get that message.
Thanks for help and your patience.
Cheers
Stuart

[MaskRider]

Thanks for help and your patience.
Cheers
Stuart

Actually, Stuart, I am the one who should be thanking everyone who downloads and installs my scenery for the time and patience.

Installing these scenery packs is nowhere near as easy as it used to be. What with all the misc. mesh, mask and flatten combinations floating around out there and the fact that these new scenery packs many times are replacing old ones, thus creating the need to uninstall the older stuff. It can really be a pain in the rear end! I am happy that as many people as do take the time and have the patience to tackle the job.

I'm not sure that I would.

BTW, I'll be releasing another pack in the next day or so- an expanded and reworked DEI pack. So stand by for more heavy rolls! ;^)

Cheers,
MR

[kdriver]

Here's what's in those pac????p.BGLs

pac4b10p.bgl Marcus.bgl
pac4g10p.bgl Hawaii.bgl
pac4p10p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes West
pac4q00p.bgl Japan - Hokkaido
pac4r10p.bgl Truk, Marshall Is
pac4r20p.bgl Australia - QLD Central
pac5l50p.bgl Japan - Hachijo-Jima
pac5l60p.bgl Marianas
pac5l70p.bgl Palau
pac5m90p.bgl New Hebrides, New Caledonia
pac5n80p.bgl Nauru
pac5n90p.bgl New Hebrides, New Caledonia
pac6a71p.bgl Australia - Gulf of Carpentaria
pac6ah0p.bgl Japan - Hokkaido, Honshu North
pac6b11p.bgl Papua New Guinea, Admiralty Is
pac6b51p.bgl Australia - QLD - Cape York East
pac6b71p.bgl Australia - QLD - East
pac6bh0p.bgl Japan - Hokkaido
pac6c11p.bgl Papua New Guinea - New Britain, New Ireland
pac6c31p.bgl Papua New Guinea - Bougainville, D'Entrecasteaux Is
pac6d11p.bgl Solomons - Ontong Java
pac6d31p.bgl Solomons
pac7g24p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes East
pac7g64p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes Southeast
pac7ga3p.bgl Philippines - Luzon Central
pac7ge3p.bgl Philippines - Luzon South
pac7gi3p.bgl Philippines - Central
pac7gm3p.bgl Philippines - South
pac7h24p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Taliabu, Mangole
pac7h64p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Moluccas - Buru
pac7ha3p.bgl Philippines - East
pac7he3p.bgl Philippines - East
pac7hi3p.bgl Philippines - Mindanao North
pac7hm3p.bgl Philippines - Mindanao East
pac7i24p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Halmahera East
pac7i64p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Ceram
pac7ii4p.bgl Australia - NT - Darwin, Tiwi Is
pac7im4p.bgl Australia - Joseph Bonaparte Gulf
pac7j24p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - Vogel Kop
pac7j64p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - West
pac7ji4p.bgl Australia - NT - Arnhem Land Northwest
pac7jm4p.bgl Australia - NT - Arnhem Land Southwest
pac7k24p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - North
pac7k64p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - Central
pac7ka2p.bgl Japan - Honshu Central
pac7ka4p.bgl Dutch New Guinea -South
pac7ke2p.bgl Japan - Honshu - Nagoya
pac7ke4p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - South
pac7ki4p.bgl Australia - NT - Arnhem Land Northeast
pac7km4p.bgl Australia - NT - Groote Eylandt
pac7l24p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - Northeast
pac7l64p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - East
pac7la2p.bgl Japan - Honshu - Niigata, Sendai
pac7la4p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - East
pac7le2p.bgl Japan - Honshu - Tokyo
pac7le4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - South, Torres Strait
pac7li4p.bgl Australia - QLD - Cape York West
pac7lm4p.bgl Australia - QLD - Cape York Southwest
pac7ma4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - Central South
pac7me4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - South, Torres Strait
pac7na4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - Central, New Britain
pac7ne4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - South
pac68h0p.bgl China - Liaodong
pac68j0p.bgl China - Shandong, Korea West
pac68l0p.bgl China - Shanghai
pac68n0p.bgl China - East, Formosa
pac68p0p.bgl China - Formosa, Philippines - Luzon
pac68v0p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes North, Halmahera West
pac69h0p.bgl Korea - North, USSR - Vladivostok
pac69j0p.bgl Korea - South - Japan - Honshu West
pac69l0p.bgl Japan - Shikoku, Kyushu
pac69n0p.bgl Japan - Kyushu, Ryukyu
pac69t0p.bgl Japan - Okinawa
pac69v0p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Halmahera North
pac4010p.bgl Hawaii, Tern Is
pac4020p.bgl Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Gilbert Is
pac4920p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes West
pac6831p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Flores, Timor
pac6851p.bgl Australia - WA - Kimberley
pac6871p.bgl Australia - WA - Dampier Peninsular
pac6931p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Moluccas
pac6971p.bgl Australia - NT - Central

[kdriver]

These coastal flattens by Rhumba can be deleted if you have updated PTO scenery by MR, UncleTgt and Jean Bomber.

M4962171.BGL Kendari
M4962271.BGL Ambon
M4962311.BGL Boela
M4962331.BGL Pulau-Jeffman
M4962351.BGL Monakwari
M4962371.BGL Kaimana
M4962411.BGL Nabire
M4962431.BGL Biak
M4962451.BGL Wakde
M5002211.BGL Manado
M5002231.BGL Sangihe
M5002271.BGL Morotai-Ternate
M4922631.BGL New Britain
M4922651.BGL New Britain
M4922731.BGL New Britain
M4962611.BGL New Britain
M4962671.BGL New Britain
M4962711.BGL New Britain
M5082551.BGL Rota, Tinian, Saipan
M5082571.BGL Guam
M5122551.BGL Farallon de Pajaros
M5122571.BGL Sarigan, Pagan, Agrihan
M5162211.BGL Yonaguni-Jima, Iriomote-Jima, Ishigaki-Shima
M5162231.BGL Tarama-Jima, Miyako-Jima
M5162511.BGL Minamiioto
M5162531.BGL Iwo Jima, ChiChijima
M5202511.BGL MukoJima
M5042671.BGL Truk
M5042711.BGL Truk
M5123551.BGL Kauai, Oahu
M5123631.BGL Molokai, Maui, Lanai, Hawaii North

[Shadow Wolf 07]

Thank you Kdriver and Maskrider. Knowing what to get rid of and the future of the sim is good to know. MR: I thought the DEI was already set for Rhumba mesh. Or are you just redoing specific bases. You are right, I spent all night and all day setting up a PTO install with the Rhumba mesh and the new scenery. I spent most of my time with installing the multitude of downloads and getting the airbase.dat file in order. Speaking of which, with an ~250 base limit, can I substitute some of the new airfields for the ETO bases on the .dat filem, or must they stay there?

[MaskRider]

... MR: I thought the DEI was already set for Rhumba mesh. Or are you just redoing specific bases.... Speaking of which, with an ~250 base limit, can I substitute some of the new airfields for the ETO bases on the .dat filem, or must they stay there?

Hiya SW,

First off check your PMs.

Yes, you are right, the pack available here st SOH, the DEI 090912 pack, is all set up for Rhumba's Mesh.

However, this soon to be released pack is a complete rework/expansion of the 090912 pack.

The new pack, the DEI 2019 pack, includes:

(1) new waterclass bgls;
(2) new landclass bgls;
(3) new consolidated AFD bgl;
(4) new textures for the blended ground polys;
(5) the addition of bunch of new bases in and around Halmahera Island and finally
(6) the removal of all vestigial API macros from the older release and their replacement with dynamic scenery objects in the GSL.

Cheers,
MR

[MaskRider]

Thank you Kevin!

Those lists are a great help!

I am going to get mine set up as close to your setup as I possibly can. Very neat and tidy. Thanks

I pretty much have been running with Rhumbas mesh and masks period.

It will be nice to be able to easily switch back and forth between older and newer airfields.

MR

[Captain Kurt]

Thank you Kdriver and Maskrider. Knowing what to get rid of and the future of the sim is good to know. MR: I thought the DEI was already set for Rhumba mesh. Or are you just redoing specific bases. You are right, I spent all night and all day setting up a PTO install with the Rhumba mesh and the new scenery. I spent most of my time with installing the multitude of downloads and getting the airbase.dat file in order. Speaking of which, with an ~250 base limit, can I substitute some of the new airfields for the ETO bases on the .dat filem, or must they stay there?

Regarding the question about airbases, yes you can substitute new airbases for the ETO bases. In fact, you can remove them altogether as long as you keep the remaining runway's [runway.numbers] sequential.

[MaskRider]

Thanks Captain Kurt,

Just to CMA ;^)

I answered SWs question about the cfs1 runway entries but I did it in a PM I sent to him a bit earlier.

But I should have answered here.

I am glad you did.

One never knows who might benefit from such little tidbits of info.

Just didn't want anyone to think I was betting forgetful in my old age! :^)

Cheers,
MR

[bearcat241]

Thank you MR and Kevin, your lists are much needed and well received

[stuart277]

Bearcat,

I hope you only eliminated the pac????p.BGLs - the pac????m.BGLs can stay. You need to reactivate the pac????p.BGLs when reverting to stock scenery. That's why I moved them to my Rhumba coastal flattens layer. I activate that layer along with the Rhumba's water files layer when I'm operating in the older scenery areas. I keep Rhumba's mesh active at all times.

Basically, when the water masks are activated, the coastal flattens and water files are deactivated and vice versa. I have all the water files for different parts of the world in the one folder. This means I'm only dealing with three layers in the scenery library. I get perfect renditions of all the PTO areas as long as I remember to activate/deactivate those three layers in accordance with the particular area. It's a bit of a nuisance, but you get used to it.

Kevin

Hi Kevin
I have some of questions for you.
1. the pac????m.BGLs can stay - what about the guam9.bgl, iwajima9.bgl etc
2. What are the pac????m.BGLs
3. I moved them to my Rhumba coastal flattens layer. - by this i assume you have a separate folder 'Rhumba coastal flatten'/scenery/pac????p.BGLs and that it has been added to the scenery layer via the usual process
4. I activate that layer along with the Rhumba's water files layer - again I assume you have separate folder 'Rhumba's water files'/scenery/CST4a10a_m.bgl etc and that it has been added to the scenery layer via the usual process rather than putting the Rhumba.s water masks in the Main Scenery folder as instructed by Rami's PTO installation tutorial

Cheers
Stuart

[kdriver]

Hi Stuart,

1. If you're using Rhumba's LOD 5/7/8 mesh, then the stock LOD 9 mesh files can be removed.

2. The pac????m.BGLs depict the land masses without beaches, rivers and roads.

3. Leave the pac????m.BGLs in their original location and move the pac????p.BGLs into the PTO coastal flatten layer (CFS2 Coast Pacific by Rhumbaflappy). In the scenery sub-folder you will have many BGL files prefixed "M" followed in alphabetical order by the pac????p.BGLs. Yes, activate the layer by the usual process in the scenery library after starting the sim.

4. That is correct. Here is the hierarchy starting from the bottom layer (which is layer 1 when looking in the scenery.cfg file). Rhumba's layers are in red:

Terrain, Watermask, Default Scenery, CFS1 Library, Scenery Ships, Aircraft Weapons, Vehicles, Effects, Runways, Buildings, FS2000_props, Mesh 7, Mesh 8, Water, Coast, specific add on scenery layers etc.

Mesh 7 and 8 are always active, while the other three have to be turned on or off depending where you are in the PTO. If watermasks are on, then water and coast are off, and vice versa. I'm not sure if you can simplify it further by putting all the water and coastal flatten files in the one folder.

Good luck, and by the way, thanks very much for all the wonderful new ships. I don't know how you do it.

Cheers,

Kevin

[Shadow Wolf 07]

MR: I was just zooming in on the airstrip on Tarawa to begin placing objects for a mission I am building and noticed something. Did tou place AA guns in the gun emplacements around the airsrtip in your bases' GSLs?

SW07

[MaskRider]

Hiya SW,

No I didn't.

Just emplacements.

Hope it doesn't take you too far out of your way! ;^)

As my daughter used to say when she was just a little girl: "Saw-wee!"

Until later,
MR

[MaskRider]

Whoops!

Belay my last!

Yes I did put guns into the emplacements at Tarawa- and only at Tarawa.

The reason is that I was following a very detailed diagram of which types of guns were actually there and wanted to be as accurate as pos.

Again, Saw-wee!"

MR

I included the layout file with the scenery. You could always go in, edit them out and re-save the edited layout to a new gsl and re-add it via GSLMan. Or you could edit them out using the MB-GSLeditor.

Oh, and BTW, not all of the guns are AA guns. Most were Anti-Boat guns.

[MaskRider]

Okay, Shadow, don't say I never did anything for ya! ;^)

Here is a gsl minus the guns at Tarawa. I left the 140mm coastal guns and the 8" guns and dumped all the rest.

Cheers,
MR

[Shadow Wolf 07]

Okay, Shadow, don't say I never did anything for ya! ;^)

Here is a gsl minus the guns at Tarawa. I left the 140mm coastal guns and the 8" guns and dumped all the rest.

Cheers,
MR

Bless you sir! I was reluctant to do the GSL edit thing for lack of experience and laziness. I appreciate the effort on your part. I had already started to build a mission with "live" AA guns on Tarawa, placing them on top of yours. Now I don't have to! I have a couple of missing objects in the scenery - a "blister" (probably a hangar and another (I forgot), I will repost that when i get home. I'll have some action screenshota over the island too.

Thanks again:

Greg

PS: The missing parts are "model blister" and "model blastpen" Any idea what D/L they are from? Also, I installed that new .gsl after first removing the first one. Did I do right?

[stuart277]

Hi SW
The blister and blastpen are part of, GSL_RAF_Buildings, by Gary20.
Cheers
Stuart

[stuart277]

Hi SW
The blister and blastpen are part of, GSL_RAF_Buildings, by Gary20.
Cheers
Stuart

[MaskRider]

Nowadays I believe the objects found in the GSL_RAF_Buildings.zip are now included in both the CFS2_BoB_Gary20_TAF_airfield_objects.zip and the CFS2_BoB_manual_install_2.0.zip. Both are available here at SOH from Gay20's download section.

I have the stand-alone version of GSL_RAF_Buildings.zip available upon request from my website.

Cheers,
MR

[Shadow Wolf 07]

Off to a start:

[MaskRider]

Off to a start:

Are we having fun yet?

MR

[highpockets]

You guys have my head, however I am determined to set my PTO to run decent looking scenery for the missions I am flying.
I currently run 3 separate PTO installs at this point--PTO Talon( His missions), PTO Early (Coral Sea & Desperate battles) and PTO Midwar ( USS Essex CV-9). I am running three because of big hard drive and my simple mind at time of installation.
I plan to take a long look at each to see how the scenery is running and peruse the discussion here and also look at MR's new DEI.
Thanks for all the good info.