Thanks Gordon. I wish I had more knowledge about the dev side. All my experience is from the painters side only. A couple other examples that show Paint vs. Metal surfaces. The paint is more of an "insulator" vs. metal which is a conductor. You can see the ability to generate amazing results. Both are my paints. Using the paint kits but I developed my own RGB Spec file from scratch. This is of course DCS and these two examples are not completely PBR yet. They use the materials but are not self reflective.