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    Parabellum MG14

    Would one of our talented members be interested in making the Parabellum MG14 gun? I'm playing around with a couple of WW1 DPs and so far the gunners are stuck with British weapons. In my search for the Parabellum it struck me that we don't seem to have any German flexibly mounted machine guns for aircraft in either World War.

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    This might be useful. The Wingnut Wings (Brandenburg W.19) web page also has some drawings of the Parabellum on its mount.
    www.wingnutwings.com

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    How detailed it needed?
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    It should prove very useful, I would think.

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    Allen, probably detailed enough to be recognisable. I know that there was a later model ( 14/17) which had no sleeve, just the narrow barrel so that would probably have a lower poly count. The earlier, and more commonly used model had a sleeve with holes which would probably bump up the poly count. Could the holes be made using an alpha channel?
    Larry, Yep...it should certainly be useful. There are a few German WW1 2 seaters out there which would benefit from the addition of a Parabellum on its simple flexible mount.

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    Attachment 62956

    How is this?
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    Hi Allen, Just a little narrower in the gun barrel, otherwise that looks great. Late war model had a thinner cooling sleeve but your model looks a lot like the 14 model. The only thing missing is a "stick" mount just in front of the trigger guard. If you go to the Wing nuts site and have a look at the instructions for some of the German 2 seater aircraft you will see
    some drawings of the gun and its mount. See link above. Thanks!

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    Yes it is early thick model.
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    Very nice work Allen. Can a second model be created with a 'forward' orientation? I'm looking at an old model of the Gotha IV bomber which had guns pointing forward and backwards. I'm assuming your gun points backwards!

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    Her is backwards and forward models. They should be ready to go.

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    Many thanks Allen. Off to place these in a DP.
    Are you going to upload the package?

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    Well some something was wrong with the last upload. No idea what but these should work just fine.

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    I added the parabellums to the DP of an old (FS2002 or 2000?) Gotha IV bomber. The weapons didn't show. I also tried adding a bomb load to the same model but the bombs didn't show up either. I recall years ago that there was a small prog which allowed ordnance and add on guns to show on/in earlier FS aircraft imported into CFS2. Does anyone still have this small converter?
    Thanks for your last post Allen. I'll delete the original and add your new files today.

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    Think your looking for convertMDL.exe

    https://simviation.com/1/search?subm...DL&categoryId=
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    Thanks Allen!

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    Just had a look at the Parabellum in the sim. Looking good.Is it possible to put a barrel inside the cooling sleeve?
    I downloaded the convertMDL file from Simviation but it appears to be corrupted. Does anyone have this little utility?

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    Here is ConvertMDL. It is a MS tool. Surprised we don't have it.... Yes I can put a barrel inside.

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    Thanks Allen for all your help.

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    Here try this

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    Great job.

    The cooling sleeve needs an inner part as well, since we should be able to see it through the holes.

    Ravenna, I am looking forward to your Gotha conversion. There are too few WW1 multi-engine bombers available for CFS2.

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    Roxane,
    I've been trying to use ConvertMDL to have weapons and crew show up in the aircraft. So far I just get an error message. This used to work in my old XP setup. Best I can do at this stage is to email you the mdl file if you have ConvertMDL. If it works for you send me back a copy and I can finish the DP. I agree with you about the lack of multi engined aircraft for a WW1install. This paticular Gotha IV is not repaintable....the textures are in af format, not bmp, but she has good lines. I picked up the files at Flightsim (FS2002 by Stephan Scholz)

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    Ravenna,
    Try this by Allen for MDLC on Win 7 and above :

    MDLC for DOSbox Aircraft convertion Utility for Win7 and above
    Now you can use MDLC on Windows 7 or above
    This tutorial and programs will guide you through the steps
    allowing you to convert FS2002/2004 aircraft for use in CFS2
    using MDLC on Win7 syatems or newer.

    Download ****


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    af format textures? This means your dealing with a FS98 aircraft and there are a few that just won't convert to take weapons. It may have to be rebuilt in gMax as that may be the only way to fix it. Assuming that Model Converter X can open it as well.
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    I am going out on a limb here : I have no idea if they will work in anything above XP:

    AF5-Paint
    A very rare program, well before its time, allowing overlays and more
    by Stefan D'bereiner, Thanks to
    Ivan for sending it in.

    FS tex convert
    A great texture convertor by: Elrond Elvish ***


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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    af format textures? This means your dealing with a FS98 aircraft and there are a few that just won't convert to take weapons. It may have to be rebuilt in gMax as that may be the only way to fix it. Assuming that Model Converter X can open it as well.
    The plane shows up in CFS2 and has a readme saying that it is for FS2002. Perhaps it was remade for FS2002.
    No Dice, thanks for the paint program. I'll have a look at it today.....sounds promising. PSP will open the af files but will not save in that format, which s a bit frustrating.
    Looking back through my old notebooks I came across "MDLpatch" and I have a vague idea that I used that file years ago to make weapons show up on an FS2002 import. No idea whether it would work in windows 10, but worth a try if I can find the patch. So far I've not had any success finding it.

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